Had 2 D/C's in one game pre 15 minutes, one returned at around 17 minutes. by then it was over anyway.
And yet i still lose L.P for something beyond my control?
Why are people penalized for things like that? Pro teams don't play 4v5 they get a pause for their technical issues.
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Lothloran2 votes[{quoted}](name=tv ƒ needHymn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OH6baXMY,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-03-19T22:22:52.816+0000)
Cuz it would suck if the enemy didn't gain LP. But if Riot gives half the people LP, and doesn't take away LP from the others, then uhh... eventually everyone's LP would go up and that would get weird.
Your post doesn't make sense. It feels like a labor to try to explain it to you, who cares if everyone's LP went up? It would still balance out, your number might increase but the relative skill that number represents would still be accurate.
Why even post? Why? <Removed by Moderation> Do you just not realize what you're saying? Or do you not care?
Leetri1 votesEver heard of inflation? There's a set amount of LP in the game right now. If someone wins someone else has to lose. If people just gained LP and no one lost LP eventually everyone would end up in Challenger/Master and there'd be no point in having a ranked system.
MagicFlyingLlama3 votesBecause if a DC triggered loss prevention, people would use a smurf, DC it every time they lose a game, and never lose LP.
Lothloran2 votes<Removed by Moderation>Because if a DC triggered loss prevention, people would use a smurf, DC it every time they lose a game, and never lose LP.
Leave buster bans people who constantly abandon games. Leveling to 30 isn't so bad but getting a champion pool to get into ranked at level 30 would require RP spending to play ranked as soon as you hit 30.
Do you think very many people would level a smurf every week to prevent lost league points? If you even think it's feasibly possible, you're a moron.
MagicFlyingLlama4 votes<Removed by Moderation>Leave buster bans people who constantly abandon games. Leveling to 30 isn't so bad but getting a champion pool to get into ranked at level 30 would require RP spending to play ranked as soon as you hit 30.
Do you think very many people would level a smurf every week to prevent lost league points? If you even think it's feasibly possible, you're a moron.
Shows what you know. Check before you call people retards.
You can buy a dozen lv30 accounts for next to nothing, party up, use the throwaway account and let it get banned, and just swap in a new one.
Guess what happens in every game that has disconnect protection for a whole team? Exactly what i described.
BALDG1VEN BOOMER1 votesIf you're gonna buy dozen of accounts to level up for a loss prevention to climb, that's very tedious also considering multiple afks are a ban and also tedious if you're waiting in queue to make sure you are placed against your smurf.
While you do make a valid point about this I don't think anyone would single handily waste time to conduct something like this, let alone it'll be too obvious if you are "placed against" the same person multiple times who just happened to go afk, seems like you're better of win trading.
Also you need to keep up with your current rank to place the same games in the said tier/division, so once again more tedious work putting in for nothing.
MagicFlyingLlama1 votes[{quoted}](name=Thę Weeknd XO,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OH6baXMY,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2018-03-19T22:44:10.789+0000)
If you're gonna buy dozen of accounts to level up for a loss prevention to climb, that's very tedious also considering multiple afks are a ban and also tedious if you're waiting in queue to make sure you are placed against your smurf.
While you do make a valid point about this I don't think anyone would single handily waste time to conduct something like this, let alone it'll be too obvious if you are "placed against" the same person multiple times who just happened to go afk, seems like you're better of win trading.
Also you need to keep up with your current rank to place the same games in the said tier/division, so once again more tedious work putting in for nothing.
I dont think you understand how this works.
People would just form a premade with a throwaway. Sure, you could potentially punish everyone involved, but it would be hit or miss and just end up being worse than the cure.
Lothloran1 votesI dont think you understand how this works.
People would just form a premade with a throwaway. Sure, you could potentially punish everyone involved, but it would be hit or miss and just end up being worse than the cure.
No we both fully understand what you're saying, it's just that what you're saying is retarded. We've both explained to you why this won't be effective. If people choose to try they'll end up failing. It's countless hours of work for very little payoff because, as SwiftKitten88 (I love that 88 by the way, I hope it means what I think it means) you'll be LOSING LP on your smurf and everyone in a party would lose LP, it's a sensible solution to the problem you think is without restitution. You are wrong. Just stop arguing lady.
MagicFlyingLlama1 votesNo we both fully understand what you're saying, it's just that what you're saying is retarded. We've both explained to you why this won't be effective. If people choose to try they'll end up failing. It's countless hours of work for very little payoff because, as SwiftKitten88 (I love that 88 by the way, I hope it means what I think it means) you'll be LOSING LP on your smurf and everyone in a party would lose LP, it's a sensible solution to the problem you think is without restitution. You are wrong. Just stop arguing lady.
Ok, clearly all the examples of it happening in other games are imaginary delusion, just like russia and nonalcoholic beer.
BALDG1VEN BOOMER1 votesFlex yes, solo/duo not likely.
MagicFlyingLlama1 votes[{quoted}](name=Thę Weeknd XO,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OH6baXMY,comment-id=000100000000000000000001,timestamp=2018-03-20T00:50:29.334+0000)
Flex yes, solo/duo not likely.
Are you suggesting flex is already such a mess it wont matter?..
That is probably right, sadly.
5050BS1 votesThis is why Riot needs to charge 10$ for an account. If Riot charges 10$ then to buy a lvl 30 with the champs needed for ranked would cost over 50$. You wont see people just throwing away an account for 50$
MagicFlyingLlama1 votesThis is why Riot needs to charge 10$ for an account. If Riot charges 10$ then to buy a lvl 30 with the champs needed for ranked would cost over 50$. You wont see people just throwing away an account for 50$
And the game dies.
Nobody wants to pay 10$ to try a new game unless it is new and massively overhyped - look at how fast any B2P game falls off.
ModEvangele3 votes<Removed by Moderation>Leave buster bans people who constantly abandon games. Leveling to 30 isn't so bad but getting a champion pool to get into ranked at level 30 would require RP spending to play ranked as soon as you hit 30.
Do you think very many people would level a smurf every week to prevent lost league points? If you even think it's feasibly possible, you're a moron.
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Your post doesn't make sense. It feels like a labor to try to explain it to you, who cares if everyone's LP went up? It would still balance out, your number might increase but the relative skill that number represents would still be accurate.
Why even post? Why? <Removed by Moderation> Do you just not realize what you're saying? Or do you not care?
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Sometimes people say things which are so mind warpingly stupid that the only way to articulate your honest feelings is to call a spade a spade and say "dude that's pretty retarded"
This isn't the halls of debate, we're all ordinary people. Stop trying to force your morality onto people.
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Frustration? LOL don't even start with that condescending malarkey. It has nothing to do with frustration, it has everything to do with talking to each other like humans. Some people need to be reminded, every now and again, that the thing they said was so stupid that it belongs in some hall of infamy.
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3TWarrior1 votesaren't there just enough 450 champs for ranked?
SwiftKitten882 votesBecause if a DC triggered loss prevention, people would use a smurf, DC it every time they lose a game, and never lose LP.
... are u that stupid.. the Disconnected play WOULD lose the LP.. its his that TEAMMATES wouldn't (unless they were in a party with them, in which case pick your friends wisely so u don't lose LP when they disconnect)
MagicFlyingLlama1 votes... are u that stupid.. the Disconnected play WOULD lose the LP.. its his that TEAMMATES wouldn't (unless they were in a party with them, in which case pick your friends wisely so u don't lose LP when they disconnect)
See, now you understand exactly what i was trying to explain!
Except your reading comprehension is shit, so you did not realize that is exactly what i meant.
Lothloran1 votesSee, now you understand exactly what i was trying to explain!
Except your reading comprehension is shit, so you did not realize that is exactly what i meant.
That's not even remotely what you said.
MagicFlyingLlama1 votesThat's not even remotely what you said.
Actually it is exactly what i said. you can scroll up for confirmation.
Ok, maybe i expected people to actually use their brains for the context.
It is pretty bloody obvious that it would not work for the account being used as a throwaway, but i would expect anyone with any experience in pvp games to recognize using a throwaway account in a group.
People playing flex already use smurfs or throwaway accounts to rig the matchmaking system and match the whole party against much lower opponents, it is a short leap to using one for loss prevention.
SwiftKitten881 votes{quoted} Except your reading comprehension is shit, so you did not realize that is exactly what i meant.
welcome to the forums.. it happens to all of us... but you didn't a pretty shitty job trying to explain that..
Tuition Fee3 votesBecause if a DC triggered loss prevention, people would use a smurf, DC it every time they lose a game, and never lose LP.
Wouldn't you lose anyways, since you're one person playing on two PCs? I don't see how this would work, unless you were a superior being with two extra arms and perhaps an extra brain.
Edit: In response to the original context of this thread, I think it's because there will be bribes (People saying "How much money/rp for afk"). It will also grant players the ability to pressure their teammates (E.g: A feeding Morg is told to afk by all four members of her team because it will negate a loss) in ways that may or may not be emotionally harmful.
Lothloran1 votesWouldn't you lose anyways, since you're one person playing on two PCs? I don't see how this would work, unless you were a superior being with two extra arms and perhaps an extra brain.
Edit: In response to the original context of this thread, I think it's because there will be bribes (People saying "How much money/rp for afk"). It will also grant players the ability to pressure their teammates (E.g: A feeding Morg is told to afk by all four members of her team because it will negate a loss) in ways that may or may not be emotionally harmful.
Who cares about people's emotions????
Tuition Fee3 votesWho cares about people's emotions????
Me, especially when I'm in my promos and there's a risk that an angry teammate will AFK/int, taking 20 of my LP and my hopes of moving out of silver with them.
JustCallMeSPED1 votesI imagine the reason is that, if one team is losing SUPER bad, and one guy agrees to take the fall and be the only one to lose LP, then it would encourage people to just take the 15 minute or hour DC ban for their teammates, especially if they queued as a group. Someone could agree to DC if everyone gives him some amount of RP, which then translates to having people purposely throw games or hold the team ransom, telling them the only way they won't lose LP is to give the guy RP so he DCs for them.
Basically, as much as losing LP because of one person's DC sucks, having only the DC-er lose LP opens the system up to a LOT more problems than it solves. You keep the DC-ers to a minimum by them knowing their DC will not help them in any way and also potentially get them banned when they get reported.
5050BS1 votesWhy lose LP when you have a Troll/Feeder on your team. Riot gives accounts out for free and so people dont care if they get banned and will troll on a free account.
If Riot charged 10$ then only the trolls would be rich youtubers trolling (easier to ban their accounts)
3TWarrior1 votesif riot charged $10, they'd potentially lose around 50% of their playerbase who want to play for free
5050BS1 votesYou mean 50% of the my other account and those that dont or wont spend money on the game.
I dont see why Riot has not done this. 50% less bloat means less server strain, trolls, less new player frustration.
LC$ is where Riot is making most of their money anyway.
Did you know it cost 10 million+ to register a LC$ team?
3TWarrior1 votesit also means longer queue times, a less diverse playerbase, more people that say "I deserve this" because they pay and really, I was being generous with the 50% thing as it is probably WAY more than that
Modl Ryden l1 votesBecause if they made it so disconnecting from a game prevent LP losses then it would obviously get abused. Don't want to demote? Tell someone to take one for the team (in this case your duo) to DC.
