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jg catch up xp

IWillTrashU··9 votes·1,675 views

first off was the person who came up with this even a jgler? If he or she was were they a jg who constantly got stomped in their own jg? I think its ridiculous so does every1 whos good at the game, ur punishing ppl for being good and giving handicaps to ppl who aren't whats next ? are u guys gonna give a free 3000 gold to the jg who never ganks its ridiculous. ruins the entire factor of imposing ur will on the enemy jg u can kill them in their jg take all there camps and as soon as they take 1 camp its back to even pretty much. pretty much takes away an entire strategy depending on matchup sometimes I would focus on making their jg useless so he couldn't affect my lanes now its near impossible u can kill him 5 times in his jg and as long as he gets 1 camp hes back in the game so stupid, no1 likes this catch up xp except ppl who get trashed on in their jg every1 who is good at the game hates it I know I'm not the only 1 to complain I see streamers and ppl in general say they hate it its garbage and the most stupid thing in the game punish good players give handicaps to ppl who get trashed in their jg. makes zero sense if ur getting trashed in ur jg and cant get any camps or xp don't play jg or learn matchups take this out of the game ruins half the strategy of being a good jg basically just saying its ok u can be a mediocre jg and be just fine make it back to how it was set amount of xp no catch up xp if ppl are getting trashed in their jg and cry about it simple don't play jg or learn matchups and get better in general ignorant to punish good players and give handicaps to ppl who are getting trashed . its harder to kill some1 in their jg and take all their camps than it is for sum1 to learn matchups and get better to prevent it its too easy for bad jgs to be relevant rn they can feed and lose 5 of their 6 camps long as they get 1 camp their relevant

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  1. the enter Key exists.

  2. When making an argument PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD USE THE FULL WORD AND SEMI PROPER GRAMMAR.

  • You typed ppl. Type the full word: people.
  • some1...... just no: Someone.

jgl is the widely accepted term to refer to jungle so its essentially a contraction at this point so ill let it slide.

IWillTrashU1 votes

dude keep all that stuff in the schoolhouse son not every1 types with punctuation and full words I'm sure u use lol instead of laughing out loud I haven't been in school for a while so all that don't matter to me I'm used to how I txt and shorten stuff only ppl who care about punctuation are teachers and kids in school or real book worms I'm both street smart and book smart but its boring to me to always use punctuation and speak proper hs is over for me idc anymore

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When you use really shitty shorthand it invalidates your argument.

Lets take for example. you are reading an article in the newspaper and there is the same story in 2 locations. one is a long chain of words and shorthand without any spacing making it hell on the eyes to read. and the other has spaces between ideas and the words are fully used.

You are going to read the second one. I didn't even make it through your post because it was a wall of text. I couldn't focus my eyes on it. Also with a lack of paragraphing your concepts all roll together instead of making a coherent argument.

And the thing is. I'm not a teacher or a kid in school. I just have a fucking aneurysm when there is a wall of text with no spacing.

-P.S. When you say that you are "street smart". That generally means that you aren't.

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Winters Dawn2 votes

Jungles need something to stay relavent after takimg time to gank. Or do you want jungle to constantly be 2-4 levels behind mid laners? Well that aint right. Mybe you should just learn other roles and stop being salty over probably one game where you got spanked by a jungler.

#saltylaner

IWillTrashU1 votes

lol kid u make zero sense I'm on the other end of the argument trashin their jg daily but it don't matter he gets 1 camp hes fine

Winters Dawn1 votes

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lol kid u make zero sense I'm on the other end of the argument trashin their jg daily but it don't matter he gets 1 camp hes fine

See now you are just making shit up. One camp will not instantly make a jungler com back, that you claim to have completely shut down. You are just salty because you shut someone down and they managed to play smart and own you. 1 camp? C'mon man. If it only took one camp for him to get back in the game obviously you didn't shut him down as hard as you are telling us you did.

Video proof man. Lets see you completely shut someone down and they get ONE camp and they back in it. I want to see

IWillTrashU1 votes

called exaggeration son still valid gets 1 camp gets a lvl and a half of xp or some stupid stuff

OyddAWqJ5r2 votes

How I read this:

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Phelas1 votes

Have a nice day.

OyddAWqJ5r1 votes

You too my dude.

IWillTrashU1 votes

go to bed kid post wasn't for u son

OyddAWqJ5r1 votes

so this is wt i thnk of ur rply 2 my comment on this post like what i rly think is that i dnt need a bedtime b/c i have gone past the age where i req a bedtime but if i were to type an actual thread like this then i would need 2 reconsider bcuz my typing reflects the txtng style used by those who need bedtimes so if i really think abt it i dnt want 2 go 2 bed b/c i dun think i actlly type like this because i know how 2 press the enter key nd know the basics of how 2 appeal to an audience in a txt format by using spacing and "highlighting" of subsections to properly convey individual grouped thoughts nd messages in a better format 4 ezier readability n i really think u shud try 2 do the same so others will actlly read ur posts n not just skim thru like i did bcuz this was as unreadable as this rply is nd tht's y i thnk u shud practice more nd on a side note i think u shudnt reply with comments like tht bcuz its prtty rood n nt nice 2 do tht 2 someone else if u dnt wnt them 2 do tht 2 u as ppl say treat othrs like u wud like 2 b trtd bt hav a nice day hope u get bettr at it o w8 bt i also 4got 2 mntion tht u shud stop callng other ppl kid bcuz u do it alot n its prtty rood 2 do tht now hve a nice day frnd

LittleOak1 votes

Alright, first off this was one of the most difficult things I have read in a while because of the lack of capitalization and punctuation so excuse me if I misinterpreted the whole of your argument but here are my thoughts.

If you have a top laner that gets stomped in laning phase and you are playing ADC who did really well, do you tell him "Back off all the CS, you're useless, you don't get another CS this game because you did so bad" or do you say "just farm up X lane, play safe, let the wave push to you and get back into this game"? If you're a "good player" as you said many times in your post, I would assume you tell them to farm and get back into the game so they can help your team. Having experience that your enemy can't steal away from you pour itself towards you endlessly every 30 seconds is easy to soak up especially when you don't even need to last hit the creature, you could literally just stand nearby and get the experience.

In the jungle, it's a whole different story. If you don't last hit the creature, you don't get the experience. If you get stomped early game, your main source of farm is always up for an enemy to steal. I believe that is the biggest reason as to why it exists. The CS that it is your job to clear, can at any point be stolen from you and you denied all of the experience of that CS. If it wasn't that way, you could have an enemy jungler like Evelynn just run around just out of camouflage range and deny you levels because you would split the EXP both ways; it's a terrible idea and you would both be severely under-leveled but that would be a way of denying you EXP and keeping your champion weaker for a time. I think that's why it still exists and why they got rid of it for regular minions. The enemy can never deny you gaining the experience from their minions because the range to get it is absurdly long, but a simple invade and hit of your Smite summoner could deny a level and an item and that is why I believe it remains.

Personally, I would also like to see it gone as I play aggressively and often will shut down my enemy jungler early, only for him to come back 25 minutes later and be an incredible offensive force for the enemy. But on the other hand, if that were to happen to me and I get shut down early, I'm glad I know that I can farm up and still be relevant later on in the game if I play correctly. It's a difficult situation but I think for the reasons listed above, it should remain.

Phelas2 votes

Right now, catchup exp kills the jungle, it doesn't leave room for punishment when you fuck up or rewards you for doing great. You simply cannot carry as a jungler, because you can never set your counterpart so far behind that you can overthrow the game.

Thats the main reason why you have to play as a glorified secondary support whose job it is to engage and bait cooldowns. Your early game consists of leveling to three, and repeatedly gank until your camps are up again, clear them, repeat gank.

You have no real matchup anymore, almost no cheese strats, invading is obsolete and all you really have to do is warding and ganking your lanes and hope for them to be able to carry.

So I don't think it should be a tough decision to remove that element of the game, hell, even casters are making fun of catchup exp, I recall a LCS game where the jungler forgot to buy machete/talisman and only realized after his first camp, and had to waste a decent amount of time, resulting in an early level advantage for his opponent. Guess what? Sejuani hit lv 6 before his enemy.

GET. RID. OF. IT.

HaIlMonitor1 votes

The only reason I dislike it is because a champ like lee sin can gank a bunch of times, fail, then back buy a taimat farm 3 camps and is the same level.

But a lot of it is, are items worthless? If I kill an enemy jungler 2 or 3 times and have a 5 minute warrior, who cares if he is the same level? I am going to destroy him every time anyways.

IWillTrashU1 votes

yea its ridiculous they should get rid of it no incentive for trashing enemy jg basically do wat u want to him outclass him hard hell catch up after 1 or 2 camps

IWillTrashU1 votes

na I don't feel the same if I get shut down early u could just take the L like a man either hes better or matchup favors him or u were off id rather it be that way cus I know 99 times out of 100 I'm gonna outclass the enemy jg so the 1 time it happens to me and I lose I'm fine with that just want wen I work hard to make their jg nothing to be rewarded not for nothing

PhantomGG1 votes

nothing infuriates me more when i'm playing jungle and solo kill the enemy jungler three times in a row and systematically destroy him, just to see him get one lucky gank off, for my laner was a idiot, to then see him go from level 9-11 near instantly.

Me; well all my hard work just got thrown into the gutter.

IWillTrashU1 votes

rite sum1 who understands

Dukues1 votes

Amen it's the dumbest shit ever.

IWillTrashU1 votes

pretty dumb yea

IWillTrashU1 votes

before this was in the game there was no problem keeping up with mid in xp anymore than now time ur ganks properly with ur pathing and camps its fine not concerned with xp to keep up with mid my only concern is wats the point of dominating the enemy jg does nothing after 1 camp hes back in the game even in xp. its almost like wen kids come in last place and ppl wanna give them a trophy lol riot just coddling the babys who aren't good at jg those 1s that get carried every game and it is a team game soloing sum1 in their jg isn't everything but it is something rn its useless but it shouldn't be used to be no greater feeling than soloing sum1 in their jg then taking their camps and watching them try to gank 3 lvls behind u all game

just OK jungler1 votes

Platinum player in a nutshell, complains about jungle XP. Well first off, just counterjungle them. And why don't you just war their jungle and kill them when they go for camps??? This is basic, but I don't expect plat junglers like you to understand.

IWillTrashU1 votes

lol son! ever think of I have done this its called after I kill them and take their camps and ward other camps once I leave their jg ever think about its almost impossible to make sure they get zero camps they show on the ward but I'm on other side of the map or I'm ganking shouldn't have to get every single 1 of his camps to shut him down killing him and taking half should be enough to be a good amount ahead. jg catch up xp should only be a thing if u dc not if u get trashed on in ur jg but I wouldn't expect u to understand son keep rooting for scrub jgers lol its my fault I wanna gank and do other things not waste all my time getting every single 1 of his camps lol na its just jg catch up xp is stupid

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