About that blast cone plant...

Jlapeljo·Dec 21, 2016·94 votes·3,505 views

Could it please not trigger passive like or even item passives like or ? its quite annoying to waste a passive or stack to catch an ennemy or roam. Pls fix rito

32 Comments

BladeniteDec 21, 201640 votes

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SlythionDec 21, 201614 votes

are we not going to talk about how using a blast cone on an enemy uses up Courage of the Colossus? I just...why riot xD

Trias000Dec 21, 20162 votes

[x] hard cc

SlythionDec 21, 20166 votes

Gain a shield for 20 - 190 (based on level) (+ 5% maximum health per nearby enemy champion) for 4 seconds after hitting an enemy champion with hard crowd control

imo, you yourself aren't hitting a champion with hard cc. You're causing something else to hit them with cc.

I imagine it like this similar situation:

"there's an afk in drag pit...I hit drag 1 time and walk away and the drag kills the afk"

In that case the game would count it as an execute because the drag was the only one to directly effect the enemy champion. It's the same case with blast cone...you aren't personally inflicting hard cc on them so why does cotc proc?

DragmoshDec 21, 20164 votes

I think a better question is this:

If someone is standing in the dragon pit, you damage it, and it knocks them back you don't get cotc. Why with the cone?

SlythionDec 21, 20163 votes

2 true man, completely forgot about that mechanic lol

LeonLyeDec 22, 20162 votes

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Blackstone01Dec 22, 20161 votes

I'd have to say Thresh since it still counts as coming from him.

SaewinDec 21, 20166 votes

It also uses up Sona 's Power Chords, which honestly is super annoying to deal with. (mastery 7 Sona main)

AreDec 21, 20164 votes

For RFC I think we can let it consume the passive because you're using the extra range to hit the plant. Unless they made it so that you use your original range (which would have clarity problems), it should consume it.

If Shiv also deals the splash damage onto enemies when hitting a plant, then it should be consumed too, unless they choose to remove this.

Sraeg2013Dec 21, 20163 votes

I'm also sure Zeal-related items proc on one or more of the plants.

If I recall it was the healing one that wasted my Shiv proc.

JlapeljoDec 21, 20161 votes

I'm pretty sure it procs aswell ty for remending me ^^

LazyW0lfDec 21, 20161 votes

I've "accidentally" used my Rapid Fire proc on a cone to screw over my teammates. It used the proc so I didn't have the range for a few seconds afterwards.

Only Play DariusDec 21, 20162 votes

That's going to be different. Being able to hit the plant from a longer range is a distinct advantage

LazyW0lfDec 23, 20161 votes

Well yes, but it consumes the proc whereas attacking wards does not. Idk if it's been tested or not, but does shiv arc if the player hits a plant near enemies?

AzteryzDec 21, 20163 votes

Twisted fate mains cry

sta supraDec 21, 20161 votes

I dont think it effects him from what im getting it only procs things thst will make a diffrence for example: tf gold card wont stun the plant so it wont effect it while rfc can proc it from further distances and can technically be usfull (while not very i admit)

AzteryzDec 21, 20161 votes

nope it uses the card still

Touch My BoxDec 21, 20162 votes

100% upvote

VenomarDec 21, 20162 votes

I don't know much about code, but wouldn't all these problems disappear if they were changed to an interactable object instead of an attackable unit? Similarly to Treshes lantern, or the shop? Click>result not Attack>result.

It would be a hell of alot easier to correct the issues this way as well?

No?

ChaoticPineconeDec 22, 20161 votes

Well, at least one problem (or wrinkle) would be that Thresh's lantern has one common radius for all units. By forcing you to attack, different ranges force different interactions with the plant.

ZelorxonDec 21, 20161 votes

Ziggs losing his passive to his W? BAKANA.

ShinobisDemonDec 21, 20161 votes

It also procs Malz's shield.

RavenMagusDec 21, 20161 votes

and item 3102

Actually just saw an ally fail to kill someone last game because his own banshee's stopped him from joining in on the blast cone ride.

Asayake 5150glowDec 22, 20161 votes

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Actually just saw an ally fail to kill someone last game because his own banshee's stopped him from joining in on the blast cone ride.

Malz passive too

morris1Dec 22, 20161 votes

and item 3102 too

HawkefireDec 21, 20161 votes

I don't mind it if it triggers firecannons passive, because you could potentially use the additional range of firecannon to use the plant. Other than that, they definitely shouldn't trigger any other passives.