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Having an AFK player (lp gain and loss idea)

Kyroys··6 votes·791 views

I've been playing league of legends for 3 or 4 years and what has been most demoralizing is having a person afk mid game and then suddenly you are at a complete disadvantage. I just played a game where we had a shacoShaco top and dced mid game this forced our jarvenJarvanIV to go top against the enemy riven and we lost the game around 17 minutes because of this i was demoted which was very tilting.

So i came with the idea with the circumstances that a person on your team dced and stays like that all game that u should be allowed to early surrender at any point in the game if the dced person has been gone for more than 5 minutes or a certain amount of time (somewhat irrelevant due to the fact that you can surrender at 15 but can still be helpful to put people in another game quicker) . And when u surrender you wouldn't lose ANY lp but if u decide not to surrender because u somehow have been winning the 4 v 5 you can take the risk and get your win and your lp. And here's a little twist to it if u win the dced person lp will be split between the 4 players for their win.

I decided to come up with this idea because I believe as a league player having to play a 4 v 5 is very unfair and demoralizing and has caused a lot of players to int or just stop caring in that game. But by putting a reward at the end of that 4 v 5 it will allow players to team up and win the game for that reward.

I would be glad to hear other peoples opinion on this idea or on how this idea can be expanded or changed to better suit or benefit the game.

tldr -surrender at any point in the game if a dced person is gone for a certain amount of time -surrendering will not make u lose lp -not surrendering and winning the 4 v 5 will give u a reward (the dced person lp shared to the 4 players)

15 Comments

Slythion1 votes

if your team doesn't lose LP, the enemy team can't gain LP.

How fair would that be if someone just quit a game they were losing and the enemy team was robbed of their LP?

Timethief491 votes

Problem is this beeing abusable in the Form of premades leaving and the Team surrendering resulting in 4 Players Not loosing LP. Also this is Problematic for how the System works, it would cause an inflation with 5 Players getting Point and only 1 Player loosing a 5th of that gain.

MysterQ1 votes

There are better ways to fix this, but I don't like this solution.

It is just (imo) stupid to 'reward' someone for surrendering and have them playing be a gamble. I would much rather just have it as is, (15min surrender will come soon enough), a win is a straight win and a loss of any kind is LP forgiven, because it is not a balanced match at that point.

To anyone wanting to argue abuse, we can fix that, we can stop abuse. But please stop punishing us/making unfun games due to disconnects. TO anyone arguing math, please learn to math first.

Also, if the player reconnects and we win, please for my sake just give him his LP. It is beyond stupid that he loses LP. If I ever came back, why would I even bother trying to help win if I am guaranteed to lose LP. To the greedy people who say, no. It won't affect you in the slightest if he gets a little LP for at least coming back to support the team.

Kyroys1 votes

That is true while posting this i was afraid that the this would be an abusable system

MysterQ1 votes

That is the smallest worry. We can fix that, just saying abuse means we will never improve the game.

EZ Viktory1 votes

Seems abuseable to be honest

MysterQ1 votes

In what aspects. We can't improve anything if we just say 'abusable, no.' Give specifics, so we can fix those flaws. Then we can fix the next flaws. Until it is good.

Kyroys1 votes

Do u guys have anything that can improve this?

Kyroys1 votes

Or something that u would change?

KVbqbFsC8e1 votes

Its not something they should ever do unless they were to also do it with feeders, which will never happen. Having your midlaner go 0/10 will lose you a game just as much as an AFK one will. You can't control either of them and they both cause you to lose LP.

MysterQ1 votes

Different.

Riot sets up a 'balanced' 5v5 MMR game. An afk makes it inherently unbalanced. Someone feeding int, bad game, incorrect MMR is still in Riot's eyes a fair match.

KVbqbFsC8e1 votes

May be a different circumstance, but the end result is the same.

Kyroys1 votes

How about taking out the part where u collectively gained the dced person's lp. What do u guys think about not losing lp when a player dc's (i do realize this can also be exploited but i still like to hear these opinions).

MysterQ1 votes

Up to Gold ELO I think it is a great start.

Kyroys1 votes

I just thought of an idea that can create this situation less abusable where to gain the lp there must be a report on that person XD and then riot can investigate the game to see if the game was actually played out and someone just didnt leave randomly however this can still be exploitable through premades but not impossible to find out if the match was planned.

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