Balancing Katarina (from the Katarina OTPs)

DuRay·3/13/2018, 1:06:12 AM·2 votes·575 views
Katarina Mains * r/KatarinaMains

So when it comes to Balancing Katarina most people just want to gut her dmg, because everytime there has been a problem with katarina in the past its due to her dmg being extremely high and with resets it causes for insta deletes of whole teams. If you think that I'm here because katarina players think that they dont "delete" the enemy team quick enough thats not what we are proposing. Since time gating katarina (and numerous other assassins), we still see that katarina and many other assassins can still delete champions if they wait out there one second: for kat throwing her w waiting for it to drop then going in, for LB proccing her passive waiting then going in, for fizz ult waiting then going in) it just becomes a massive mess of assassins being champions that throw an ability then wait to go in, that is all time gating has done, and many people still dont like katarina, fizz, talon, leblanc, rengar, and sometimes zed. Its because before we would just get oneshot and be like wtf there is no counterplay and now its "wow i get hit by fizz ult lets wait till we die... yay counterplay". for katarina we dont necessarily want a revert we just want to dmg numbers to be good early and scale off later, we want mobility, and we want to have counterplay during our 1.25 second timegate that isnt w and run away or lets hope they walk toward my q dagger after i throw it. alot of discussion has been happening on the katarina sub reddit and would like to voice some of it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/KatarinaMains/comments/83uppt/ok_had_passive_damage_nerf_had_e_dmg_nerf_but_e/ https://www.reddit.com/r/KatarinaMains/comments/839nr2/my_idea_of_a_w_buff/ https://www.reddit.com/r/KatarinaMains/comments/82rg0m/the_lb_reverts_on_pbeboards_made_me_realize_how/ https://www.reddit.com/r/KatarinaMains/comments/82m1k0/kat_feels_terrible_to_me_now/

above are links to a few posts in the katarina sub reddit, and i believe its a firm consensus that katarina doesn't really need her dmg numbers buffed but early season 7 she received a cd nerf to her shunpo then her shunpo got its dmg nerfed, then got the dmg nerfed again, then she got her passive nerf. The only problem is that after those nerfs katarina now has no counterplay early game or late game with her e on the side of kat, it used to be that e dealt a good bit of dmg so i could just make sure i get my resets and weave my autos in (thats the counterplay for kat if you burst her before she can get her resets), now it has become if i throw my q and they dont move away from it i can e onto them and then ew, but since the nerf to kats e cd mid season 7 she becomes timegated by a 3.2 sec cd on her e levels 3-6. So not only can katarina not outplay by reseting and dodging with her e but she also cant be lethal with it. the channel time to kats e has also made her clunky. due to this a few people have proposed reverting the e cd nerf and removing channel time on e, and if necessary removing the auto attack reset e gives for balance. This would add more counterplay for katarina and remove her early all in dmg if you remove aa reset on kat. others have proposed toying with ad scaling on e be tuned down and channel time on e gets removed and e cd nerfs get reverted. It would make kat more fluid and fun to play as well as add dimension to fighting her.

3 Comments

Vampire Diaries3/13/2018, 9:36:04 AM2 votes

Yes i agree after all the kat dmg nerfs on e the cd nerf is so pointless it just kills her early game too bad . Also that e cast time is pointless too it makes her even more clunky that she should be

Vampire Diaries3/13/2018, 9:57:13 AM1 votes

Also bring back old shumpo animation this one is more like dash old was blink and it was cool

Kloak3/14/2018, 7:43:23 AM1 votes

Fully agree, if they're going to nerf her Passive damage and her Shunpo damage, they could at least revert the cool down (not to be instant because that's unfair) nerf from patch 7.7.