Irelia is so disgusting champion wtf, all she is supposed to do is just to get 5 stacks and nothing else , even if she miss her E Q she still trade ALOOOOOOOOT better than almost every midlaner, that's disgusting. Where are the actual nerfs?
Sir Saltarin9 votesHer pickrate on Mid is half of the pickrate on Top and her winrate it's 3% lower.
She's not a problem on soloQ.
Ragnaveil3 votesHonestly, pick something with high AP burst potential into her. She cant do much without a Hex and Wits because her W no longer reduces magic damage.
Illabethe1 votesHer W not reducing magic really isn't that strong, because Irelia has one of the largest HP growths in the game, especially since she can bypass Triforce and go directly for Sterak's.
At level 6 and progressing toward a Sterak's build she literally has 1600 HP (including items) and has a kit that can do over 1500 back + Ignite.
At level 6, most mid laners have 900-1200 HP max.
kingDeDeDarius1 votesI hate irelia too man, but don't use bad logic. Base health does not scale with steraks shield passive...it's something like 70% BONUS HEALTH. But yeah, it is bs that riot compensated her nerfs by giving her better ho growth than DARIUS, A JUGGERNAUT. And also buffing her anti physical damage debuff so that her nerfs had a near net neutral effect against ap champs and a power positive effect against physical damage threats
Illabethe1 votesUNIQUE – LIFELINE: If you take 400 − 1800 (based on level) damage within 5 seconds, you gain a shield for up to 3.75 seconds equal to 75% bonus health, which start decaying after 0.75 seconds (60 second cooldown).
I'm talking about the activation benefit. She has one of the best immediate kits to build it first, rather than second. Most Irelias from what I've seen are building it fully before finishing Triforce (they may get a sheen), because the base AD increase from Steraks benefits her Q on average more than the Triforce does, and the Lifeline Tenacity makes her extremely hard to pin down.
Just with Sterak's at about level 8, Irelia has over 1700 HP, which is a lot at that stage of the game for any mage to deal with, as their kits are designed to fight each other, not some skirmisher with almost double their HP.
Illabethe4 votesShe's a huge problem in Solo Queue. Most mid lane mages and assassins both are countered completely by her kit, and even if they harass her down, her HP growth is so fast that she's switched from starting Triforce to starting Sterak's. Even top laners defer Sterak's because they need the HP to activate it.
You can build a Meta Ahri, and Irelia will just pubstomp it, because Ahri can't put out damage fast enough to take even half her HP. And she can't really be avoided either, because her E has no real range, and it only takes 2 marks for Irelia to kill her. All she has to succeed at is 1 in 5 E stuns, and she wins lane. 1 in 5 is insanely overbearing, when other champs need a 50-60% hit rate to be viable.
Sir Saltarin5 votesWow that's amazing I dont know why Ahri is the 6th best pick against Irelia in terms of wr
https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Irelia/
Or maybe is that what you just wrote is non sense, who knows.
For now I claim that Irelia is on her most balanced spot she has ever been (reworked Irelia) and I base this claim on her average soloQ stats (which you can see on Lolalytics) and her non pick/ban state on pro play which you would know if you followed pro play which is something I dont know if you do.
Dude I play Irelia, she's by far my most played non ADC champion and I'm laughing so hard about how clueless you are about her, but I rather answer with the stats than with my opinion as an Irelia player because I'm a low elo aswell.
Illabethe1 voteshttp://matchup.gg/matchup/Irelia/Ahri/MID
Irelia dominates the lane, but loses the game.
Aka.... in a controlled game, teams take better advantage of Ahri's charm than teams take advantage of Irelia's stun, and post lane, in team fights, Ahri can actually escape.
Aka..... in a team environment, Irelia's skills are less reliable.
Here's more to back that up:
https://na.op.gg/champion/irelia/statistics/mid
Look at the lane disparity. Lane Kill Rate Irelia Dominates.
Yet..... Ahri takes advantage of teams better.
Eedat1 votesOOOOOOORRRRRRRR you're using a source that is using a tiny sample size (like forreal a lot of those matchups are based on <300 total matches and every single one is based on <1000 matches) and using who knows what metrics to arbitrarily determine who "won lane". Exactly how do they determine who "won lane" exactly? Why does even your own source have Mid Irelia listed at 45% win rate?
Mid Irelia is a trash tier pick that may be a situational counter pick at best. Even thats being generous because according to your own source, Mid Irelia doesn't have one SINGLE matchup where she wins the game 50% of the time. NOT ONE.
Illabethe1 votesYou do realize ANY statistic comparing a specific champ matchup in a specific lane IS going to have a small sample size? Omfg it's like you think that's as common as comparing a Champ to Champ comparison in same game (which is 5 times as large) or a champ's overall statistics (Tens of thousands of times as large).
The metrics they are using is literally tracking where the deaths occurred and at what part of the game...... (Like Riot itself does.....)
You do realize....... Irelia's OVERALL win rate doesn't even pass 50%. Her OVERALL is only 48%.
In other words..... DUH: She's a "have to master" high skill champion.
Eedat1 votesAs I pointed out in another post, her early game winrate is 42% in midlane
https://i.imgur.com/ZV732oa.png[/img]
So you're going to tell me that despite winning practically every single lane and hard countering all AP and AD champs she sits at a dogshit tier 42% win rate for early games? You either have an irrational hatred of Irelia or you're trolling me. I'm guessing the former seeing how you've probably scoured every single site you could to find any bogus statistic you possibly could possibly find to argue she is.
Even if you search for Diamond+, her Mid winrate never escapes the 46% range and these are the people who have the mechanics to pull her off.
Mid Irelia is straight trash and is 100%, unarguably worse than top. She is not a problem in the slightest.
Afk on Lane4 votesHer Nerfs, basically weakened her bruiser side. I mean, she cant no longer trade with bruisers on top, but she get 90% slow and bigger dmg on ult which made her better assassin. Right now she can almost delete any mage at 6 lvl, pogchamp. BTW i think she need another rework on all of her abilities. Just make her assassin, or fully bruiser, not 4k hp 2.0 as, 350 dmg 20 dashes 90% slow pogchamp who almost one shot and has the mobility of the assassin.
Eedat2 votesWhat do you mean? Irelia mid is significantly worse than Irelia top. Irelia mid is a straight up trash pick
Illabethe3 votesIt's really not. Her HP growth puts her outside the kill realm of almost every mid mage in an exchange, and her W counters assassins in that lane.
She can literally turret dive, take a face - on CC under turret, and still have time to kill someone and get out before her HP is completed.
If she didn't have HP growth and first item 
, she'd be fine for mid.
ZephyrDrake1 votesIt's really not. Her HP growth puts her outside the kill realm of almost every mid mage in an exchange, and her W counters assassins in that lane.
She can literally turret dive, take a face - on CC under turret, and still have time to kill someone and get out before her HP is completed.
If she didn't have HP growth and first item
Oh noes.. someone building HP has more HP than those not building HP how can this be? That's completely unheard of!
Illabethe1 votesYou do realize those AP mages also build HP? Their BASE is lower though. Hers is so high that she can activate Sterak's without building other items first, and her Q puts her in a unique position that no matter how bad she is, she can ensure almost a 100% CS capture while doing it. Those mages have to duck and weave, and conserve mana. She just has to be able to do higher damage with a Q than the remaining HP, and it resets.
ZephyrDrake1 votesYou do realize those AP mages also build HP? Their BASE is lower though. Hers is so high that she can activate Sterak's without building other items first, and her Q puts her in a unique position that no matter how bad she is, she can ensure almost a 100% CS capture while doing it. Those mages have to duck and weave, and conserve mana. She just has to be able to do higher damage with a Q than the remaining HP, and it resets.
They don't rush items with HP most of the time. Also most bruiser items have more HP than mage items. Sterak's gives a stupid amount of HP. She can use Q to CS but that also leaves a gigantic "focus any AoE here" target so she will take damage. She doesn't benefit from her ONE defensive skill whatsoever against AP users and most AP champions have some form of CC that can help keep her at bay, or they have range advantage. They might not all have kill pressure but you don't need it to win lane. Irelia is terrible mid currently, being a niche counterpick at best.
Illabethe1 votesHave you ever tried to hit an irelia that is killing a wave in 2 seconds of Q hops? With aoes? Lmfao. Good luck with that one, especially once she can Q full HP minions without risking one not dying....
You don't seem to realize that that slipperiness in a 1v1 environment makes her nearly impossible to hit or to even lock on top with point and clicks
The only reason her win rate is low overall is, from an Irelia player's perspective, her kit is weak. When you first pick her up, I agree; you feel she is the target of every aoe in the game, because you have a tendency to try to go in and shave HP off minions to prepare them for Q's. That gets you punished.
But..... GOOD Irelias.... who have practiced ~ 50 games...... they just do nothing and let the minions do the work. They spend that time harassing with E, and using mage wave minion deaths to set up the second knife with almost perfect accuracy. When they do this, they both damage the entire minion wave, and stun the champion, and get the option to either go back and 2 second or less the wave, or to engage the stunned champion. Either way, they just won the trade, and are now back at an unaggressive nonvulnerable state, where they can just dodge skill shots and do 0 interaction until the next E opportunity.
You're basically calling E not a defensive ability, even though it's a stun. You're saying Q is not a defensive ability, even though it relocates her and takes her out of any skill as long as minion is nearby, especially if she's applied marks, and resets.
News Flash: Dash mobility is the best defense in the game there is.
In lane, Irelia dominates those mages.
It's only after lane where she has to deal with multi champion pressure that she begins to screw up. That's where CC begins to matter, or large scale aoes. Because she's taking them from all directions, and it's very hard to set up an E right in a team fight, and W is almost useless in a teamfight. She basically gets boiled down to Q + R and her marks at Team fight stage.
Eedat1 votesYou're right. That would explain why she has a 45-46% winrate mid because she's simply unkillable and counters both AP and AD champs in the lane
Illabethe1 votesAgain; look up the actual matchups. She wins lane hard. She loses the group team game at high elos.
Eedat1 voteshttps://i.imgur.com/ZV732oa.png[/img]
Yeah really dominates the early game
kingDeDeDarius1 votesMaybe because she's a skill champ and in experience hands she becomes op? Hmm I wonder
Red Mage FTS2 votesI am happy seeing Irelia mid.
Ill go Garen.
MrFawknSunshine2 votesshe is a solo lane champ who excels at 1 on 1 fights why wouldnt she be able to go mid depending on match up/team comps?
Ahri Baka2 votesThat's because when they nerfed her by removing her extra damage on shields and removing her disarm They did buff her Ult slows to 90% , so in other words , if she is against a mage , her latest changes were a buff to her , not a nerf Basically getting hit by her Ult is guaranteed death even if you have flash , especially that she slows you by 90% that is almost like a root , makes her E guarantee hit for an extra Q reset
Eedat2 votesShe's not really. Sounds more to me like you just got trashed by one and needed to make a shitpost about it rq
Pąìn1 votesShe's not really. Sounds more to me like you just got trashed by one and needed to make a shitpost about it rq
yeah I got trashed by irelia who miss her entire combo twice and killed me only with auto attacks XD fair , right?
Eedat3 votessounds to me you fucked up way worse than that and still died to a trash pick mid. Legit 46% WR but better nerf her because salty players get trashed in a match then make garbage salty QQ posts about her
Illabethe1 votesNo...... that's literally how it goes. Her Q has 3 on champ possible resets, and she only needs to hit 1 to actually kill someone.
Mid allows her to abuse her Q faster than top as well, which results in a lane where she absolutely controls the CS flow, has large HP growth, and unlike mids, her power spike is far before they complete a single item. Mids usually need that first item to spike.
A Bad Nasus2 votesIt's because mids are generally squishier and have less sustain than toplaners. If she gets nerfed to the point that she can't mid she won't be picked ever again lol.
Sirsir1 votes45% is viable to you?
Pąìn1 votes45% is viable to you?
Her pickrate is only 5% so ofc she will have lower w/r than usually. And her wr doesn't prove anything, even akali was around 47/45 winrate for couple of months but riot nef her to the ground, right?
Sirsir1 votesActually a lower playrate usually means dedicated mains only, which means a slightly inflated winrate.
Lots of champs are 'viable' midlane that aren't supposed to be there. 
qko pate1 votesYou havent seen my Irelia's yet then you will take your words back...
