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Janna Nerfs

CatCanDo··4 votes·942 views

"We're taking another look at possible Janna changes, with much of the focus there still being on adding a bit more skill expression for Janna and counterplay opportunities for her opponents. Things currently being tested include Q uncharged being weaker/charged being stronger (faster for one thing), E having a longer CD until max rank (windows of vulnerability in lane), longer AA range (incentive a bit more risk taking and active play on Janna's part). Work's still going through quite a bit of iteration, so nothing final yet, hoping to have something in for 7.19 though."

If you do the things up here, you will destroy ANOTHER support champion (like u did Karma and like u made Nami less effective). Janna is fine as she is and so were the rest, the item is the problem. So RIOT please STOP buffing items then nerfing champions. Janna is THE most nerfed champion in the game, with around 25 nerfs under her belt, the population of Janna mains is so small, do not make it smaller. All you will get is hate and tbh that is what i feel now: the urge to punch the person who came up with those things.

STOP BUFFING ITEMS AND NERFING CHAMPIONS!

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Lõyalty2 votes

Janna falls in line of those champions in the game who do one thing and one thing only, but do that better than any other champion in the game. Examples: Blitzcrank Soraka Malphite . In this case, she is extremely good at peeling, but lacking in other areas such as damage and engage. In a meta where adcs are highly valued and need to be protected, you cans see why she's prospering, and why her gameplay right now could be a little problematic.

SomeOneButNoOne1 votes

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Janna falls in line of those champions in the game who do one thing and one thing only, but do that better than any other champion in the game. Examples: Blitzcrank Soraka Malphite . In this case, she is extremely good at peeling, but lacking in other areas such as damage and engage. In a meta where adcs are highly valued and need to be protected, you cans see why she's prospering, and why her gameplay right now could be a little problematic.

that's the thing. With ardent censer, she doesn't only protect, she adds to the ADC's power even further, on top of 40ad from her E (around 50-60 later) it's just retarded.

Bańg2 votes

Janna is a broken champion and if u don't agree it's becuase u main her and don't want to get better at the game in order to climb the ranks

waiting for WoW1 votes

Honestly a lot of that sounds like some improvement at the cost of some of her safety. She is basically losing some disengage strength but gaining a lot of extra engage with her Q moving faster and harass with her improved AA range.

I really don't think her shield CD would be increased by a drastic amount, and the real purpose of increasing the CDR on the spellthief line is to give her more shields early after her E cd increase if she opts into it instead of coin. Either choose between more shields early, or empowered(ardent) shields early. Sounds like a fair trade to me.

CatCanDo1 votes

the Q is the problem really. With a slower cast on her Q early: meaning lvl 2 to 6, she will be garbage when ganked. She already is very fragile and goes down quick if focused, slowing down her fast cast q means even more of a feed fest early game bot.

SomeOneButNoOne1 votes

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the Q is the problem really. With a slower cast on her Q early: meaning lvl 2 to 6, she will be garbage when ganked. She already is very fragile and goes down quick if focused, slowing down her fast cast q means even more of a feed fest early game bot.

They should "nerf" her in a way that makes her actualy require a brain to play.

And they should rework the ardent cancer.

Look at the locket a bit since it's ridiculous that there are teams even stacking up to 3 lockets and using them over a teamfight, wich is just dump (considering locket can prevent a literal full combo burst from an assassin).

The entire support role is retarded at this moment, and support are literaly "carrying" all the games, with Janna players requiring literaly no brain and having no punishment what so ever no matter what they do.

Janna is the best disengage champ in the game, and with Ardent censer she gives the AD carry so much extra power, that he can just stand still and right click with hurricane.

Her E CD should be incresed, so that she'd get more punished in lane instead of being a shield bot, she'd have to think when she wants to use it, and for what she wants to use it. Right now her shield CD is 10seconds, and it lasts 5. Wich means you have 5 seconds to trade in between.

Also the greatest issue is that shields can't be countered, unlike heals. There's executioners to cut heals in half, but shields stay up and they can't be reduced.

The entire support role is insanely strong right now due to redemption/ardent/locket... Mages are basicly rendered useless, and I don't even want to talk on behalf of assassins. (When even, not when a 15/1 brand one shots the entire team.)

CatCanDo2 votes

agreed! nerf the item and stop nerfing the champions. it is a vicious circle riot cant get out of

Bańg1 votes

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agreed! nerf the item and stop nerfing the champions. it is a vicious circle riot cant get out of

Except even without ardent Janna is too good at what she does and the fact that u don't need more than one hand to lane with her means something is wrong

Kissie1 votes

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SomeOneButNoOne1 votes

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can they not

i just started using her a couple days ago

What's your winrate on her? :)

freeloader251 votes

yes janna is the most nerfed champion in the game and still has never been weak. meta, items, nothing matters for janna. when janna is """weak""" she only sits at 52% winrate and 10% playrate. has been broken since i play the game while requiring ~0 skill in her entire kit to function well. im so happy she finally gets some attention (well with 56% winrate at pickban status there wasnt much arguing against it anymore...)

this champ really needs a weakness. offering the same amount of peel for herself as she offers for others does not only make her adc invulnerable but herself too. thats the part they should change tbh (compare to soraka).

the population of Janna mains is so small, do not make it smaller

lel

edit: btw i like those changes. this way janna has to make choices unlike before.

CatCanDo2 votes

i play soraka because janna is perma banned, in all honesty soraka should be nerfed not janna, when u manage to keep ur adc full HP through an ap annie and gragas burst then u kill every1 makes you wonder. If it was a Janna her adc and her would be toast. You people dont understand, she DOES have weknesses, once u stun her she dies the end, she has a knock up and a slow that slows HER down. Making fun of people who main Janna is also kinda lame. She is a hard champion to master and udnerstand and honestlly you see the diff between meta slaves and actual Janna mains. If u ask me raise the cd on her shield and reduce the ad again, that i agree with, but do not mess anymore with her other skills. The last nerfs to her ult made is so hard for her to sustain her team. Just feelsbad when you play Janna into Soraka or Sona and u just watch when u ult and almost nothing happens, then those 2 heal and the enemy team is full HP again. Every1 here who agrees with the Janna nerfs are salty nerds who lose ranked against her, that is all. She doesnt carry games as much as u think, if her other teammates wiff early she is sht, unlike SOraka who once gets lvl 6 she impacts the ENTIRE map. Top need ardent buff and i ma bot? No proble, Press r and done. Janna needs to stay in lane, she depends on her adc and her team. The people she plays with make her strong and now maybe ardent. But in all honesty Soraka and Sona benefit much more from that item because they can easily apply it aoe then she can. Janna needs items in order to be efficient and proc Ardent, other supports just need to press w or r. Do not forget we are already down 2 heal/shield supports because of rekless nerfs. Nami and Karma are garbage atm and Nami actually req skill to play. They got nerfed because ardent 2 strong. So Riot needs to step back and rethinkg this buff item nerf an entire set of champions. Instead of nerfing champs balance the gdam item or remove it from the game all toghether. Riot said in preseason 7 they want to give supports more choices in item builds, then they bring out redemption (must buy item for months) then they buff ardent (must buy item currentlly). Support have a FIXED build, there is no originality in masterys runes or items, exactlly what Riot aparentlly DID NOT want happening yet it did. And because of the mistake they made, champions get punished. Yes champions I enjoy, ok fine i am selfish now, but it is not fair to keep nerfing champions like that, just to try and patch up mistakes u made with items. DFG the Ardent and be done with it. oh and: LEAVE SUPPORTS ALONE! the role is just fine ffs -.-

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