Am I the only one who finds it unfair that everybody becomes Garen in a mode where, when you can't go back to spawn to reprenish your HP, you just build tanky AF and win because, essencially, everyone becomes Garen after 8 seconds?
RIOT, please, remove this stupid item from ARAM! 2-3+/5 champs who are tanks guarantee a win!
Dead flag blues2 votesDelete 
from ARAM, but also remove 
Or another alternative : make melee only, cut shields value by a half, remove Triumph / Dark Harvest, but still remove
Baka Red2 votesEven though I prefer ranged champions over melee, I believe that Warmog is a necessary part of ARAM. That is because if it didn't exist, many full melee teams would almost automatically lose against heavy poke teams. With warmog it will be more even fight. So Riot, please do the wise thing and ignore this thread. Thank you.
If you the reader need more "proof", you can look at the top ARAM win rate champions from lolking for example. The top 10 at this moment for the last month has two melee champions (Sion and Maokai) among them. The other eight are ranged. Among them we have the familiar faces of Ziggs, Sona, Lux, Vel and Fiddle whom we all love. Also we have Janna, Kog and Teemo there. As long as poke champions like the loved five are at top, the melee guys need more love and Warmog is part of that love.
Janna, Kog and Teemo are little different from the other five ranged champions; Janna can protect the carry (her tornado doesn't count as much of a poke in my eyes), Kog is serious anti-tank-weapon (and potentially a poke engine also) and finally Teemo is the heavy defensive guerilla weapon. Maokai offers bush control and some poke via bushes, but mostly he is just really difficult to kill tank, Sion ... I never realized he is at top 10 before this. I cannot explain why he is there, but I guess he has got his serious initiation potential. So, how many of those ten (ab)use warmog?
T I L T B O I1 voteswarmogs is pretty ridiculous in ARAM i wouldn't be opposed to seeing this item be deleted
Tarxus1 votesAll I have to say is how can Riot ban champs from URF because they are "too strong" then allow champions such as fiddlesticks.viegar,illaoi,garen into ARAM. Different champions have different strengths, hecarim and sona are great and urf, and viegar,garen,illaio,and fiddlesticks are great in ARAM. How can you ban some champs without banning the others? It's called favroitism and it's bullshit. Either ban all the champs who are stronger in different game modes or don't. Do not ban random champs based on a vocal minority who complain about losing games based on random chance. Ex. you ban hec and sona from URF because people complain but do not ban viegar/sona/soraka/garen/illaoi/fiddlesticks from aram because you don't give a shit?
Minarde1 votesYou're overlooking the significant difference between URF being a temporary mode and ARAM being a permanent one. Banning champs is generally an undesirable action, but it's vastly worse in a permanent game mode. Pretend I'm a Sona fan. If Sona gets banned in URF, then I miss out on playing Sona in URF, and that sucks. However, at least my regular League gaming is unaffected. However, if Sona gets banned in a permanent game mode, I might not be able to play Sona at all. I'd be much more frustrated at Riot and much less likely to continue supporting League, especially if it's an indefinite ban.
Tarxus1 votesI understand what you are saying but wouldn't that support MY case more? Just because a champion is "overpowered" in a temporary game mode doesn't that mean at MOST you will only have to deal with them on a temporary basis. Wouldn't it make more sense to ban champions from a permanent game mode since you have access to it always? Especially if the reason you are banning them is because they are supposedly "overpowered"? I don't think it's fair that I will NEVER get to play sona in URF (even AR URF) which only comes maybe 3 times a year because she is supposedly too strong, but champions who are strong in other situations don't get permabanned. I'm not really saying permabanning champions from ARAM is the correct path, rather that permabanned champs from URF (or other rotating game modes) is pretty unfair.
Minarde1 votesI'm not really saying permabanning champions from ARAM is the correct path, rather that permabanned champs from URF (or other rotating game modes) is pretty unfair.
I agree with this part. However, overall, I still think it comes down to temporary modes being considered a "bonus." In other words, it's not as big a deal if you don't get to play Sona in URF because you normally can't play Sona in URF (as URF is unavailable), and that (probably) hasn't stopped you from playing League. Still definitely bad though.
Khristophoros1 votesTanks are strong regardless of Warmog's. I often don't buy it until really late because other items help my team win.
