Zara support steals too much CS from ADC

skribbz··5 votes·4,207 views

Zyra I've been maining as Zyra support for a while now and it's just unavoidable that my plants will end up stealing at least some of the ADC's CS in a game. This can happen either by directly getting the CS myself or just accidentally weakening a creep to a point that it dies too quick and the ADC may miss the last hit. This also causes the lane to be more pushed than it should be.

What I think Zyra needs is a little bit more control over her plants. This could be as simple as adding a way for you to stop your plants from attacking creeps. I do know that if you auto-attack an enemy champion the plants will stop attacking the creeps, but sometimes this means getting too close to the enemy champions and could possibly lead to a death, which just isn't worth it.

In a perfect world I would like something similar to Kindred's marking system. It could have all the the enemies and even a slot that cancels all plants from attacking. I seriously doubt that Riot would implement something like this and it might even call for some balancing work to the plants damage, but I think something needs to be implemented to help Zyra supports from hurting their ADC's.

What do you guys think? Are there any other Zyra supports out there who also have this issue? If not, are there any tips you could pass to me? Also, are there any ADC's that have this issue when their support is playing Zyra?

Thanks for any insight, in advanced!

14 Comments

RiotRiot Sotere7 votes

I attempt to put my plants decently behind the minion wave to zone off the enemy. I also die a lot when I play Zyra. So there's a tradeoff.

Dangerous strategy: if you legit think your lane partner is going to miss the CS because your plants are aggro'ing them, pick them up for yourself. Zyra is good with money. :)

Faith Breaker3 votes

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nightman3602 votes

If your adc isnt going to take the cs then you are just letting it go for no reason. Use your brain and make a decision that will benefit the team not just your adc.

GaleWinUnleashed1 votes

Steal? As long as a champion gets that last hit, that gold isn't going to waste. Zyra in particular does quite well with a bit of extra gold.

https://i.imgur.com/1HvNiEO.png?noredirect

PhDs Nuts1 votes

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Steal? As long as a champion gets that last hit, that gold isn't going to waste. Zyra in particular does quite well with a bit of extra gold.

https://i.imgur.com/1HvNiEO.png?noredirect

See how well that goes for the lane phase. 150g can be the difference between coming back to lane with item 3134 or item 1083 item 1001

InTheory2 votes

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skribbz1 votes

This is all we need. I would accept as much functionality as they would offer, but I really feel that I only NEED the ability to stop the plants from attacking creeps on command.

L3gba2 votes

I have stopped using Zyra support and only use her mid lane unless the ADC on my team is learning or doesn't mind the loss of some CS.

I like the way she is now because she is incredibly effective at chocking the enemies ability at effectively farming.

You will never be able to completely stop the occasional minion kill when using Zyra support. You can limit your use of deadly spines and mainly use grasping roots in order to root the enemy and the vine lasher slows them for a higher possibility of making a kill.

I switched to ADC main now and as far as CS being taken and the occasional kill taken from me, it happen. It isn't ideal but I won't be bothered as long as we win lane. Some adc get really annoyed no matter how well you control your CS and taking kills, but most of those I have encountered weren't great adcs to begin with.

After looking at your match history it looks like you're not going overboard and taking kills or a lot of CS. But I could be wrong it's just my thoughts on it.

Presently Absent2 votes

Pfft. Try not stealing CS as support fiddlesticks :(

Friendly Ram2 votes

Lets think logically for a seCAWCAWCAW

ShinkoMinori1 votes

I hate Zara too, what a bitch

Beldair1 votes

To prevent cs, you have to be smart with plant placement.

In all honesty, i hardly take any cs from my ADCs. Only time i take the cs is when they are dead or backed.

GerAvos1 votes

Or you know, just don't use any plants unless someone engaged a fight.

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