Riot fucked up with the Tank Meta

OMGMikeWTF·6/13/2015, 12:23:39 PM·8 votes·2,210 views

So I know it sounds a little bit to harsh but it is my honest opinion. In this season games are not fun anymore, you find yourself facing this beasts that are not only capable of taking big chunks of damage without even caring but actually deal a lot of damage in return. This for example is a recent game I've had:

I simply don't think it is balanced to have an extremely tanky champion that can destroy your flimsy adc or apc without them being able to respond at all. There is little to no counterplay to this. In here you can as a Garen, dealing more damage than there own adc and apc (This one being Ekko) Both of them not being behind at all nor Garen being much far ahead. Let me emphasis this last point, a Garen did more damage than a fed Ekko, that had much more gold than he did, and ashe while being literally unkillable. This same thing applies to their Shyvana which could one shot you with challenging smite and q and couldn't be killed either.

Simply wanting to post my opinion, I know that there is always going to be a predominant group in each season depending in the Meta. But back in the assassin meta, which many people complained about, atleast assassins could be killed relatively easily if they made a small mistake while currently in this meta tanks can fulfill the assassin role blowing up the enemies squishies but this time being almost unstoppable. In my opinion each role must fulfill there own objectives, tanks must be tanky but leave the damage to the damage dealers like marksman(dps) and assassins(burst), bruisers or fighters should deal a fair amount of damage and be a little bit tanky but nothing in excess. This meta has forgotten to differentiate between roles and no longer feels balanced nor fun.

You can call me noob or bad ,or whatever you want that makes you feel better, for not being able to cope with this but I simply don't think the current meta is a good approach for the game overall.

10 Comments

Knight SoIaire 6/13/2015, 1:41:27 PM3 votes

the problem isnt some meta

riot just fked up ballancing damage vs tankyness interactions on top of simply not updating tanks to specialize them more into what they are meant to be

tanks are doing the thing that they were designed for when they were releases ... they are tanking your damage becuase if you wont kite them you will die to them

and thats just a bad design

OMGMikeWTF6/13/2015, 12:56:48 PM3 votes

It seems like some of you have already downvoted this post. If so could you state why? I would like to hear your opinions and love to stand corrected because this grants me the opportunity of improval so please don't just downvote and leave without speaking a word.

Noctius286/13/2015, 1:05:09 PM1 votes

Better tank meta than assassin meta, at least this you can kite and counter, assassins you either had full map control or you were dead in a flash without being able to counter

Just build last whisperer adn Blade o the ruined king and you win

Latte San6/13/2015, 1:07:34 PM1 votes

I guess one thing you should keep in mind is that garen has an execute and AoE damage it wouldnt be surprising to do a bit more damage than some other tanky people i mean the damage from his ult increases with lower health adding up to very large amounts after total damage while if he spins on FIVE people that damage is also added on to total damage done

Skypual6/13/2015, 1:16:38 PM1 votes

Okay, You know that item 3035 and item 3071 exist right? Also Shyvana wasn't building tank, she was fighter, look at her build. Also you were playing Ezreal which is probably worst ADC to use against tanks. As for Garen's damage, he was in middle of the fights most of the time, so he dealt damage with his E to 3+ champions, he also had a black cleaver which shred your armors and well he was fed.

AND ALSO... what tank meta are you talking about, so called tank meta was born after creating cinderhulk, an item which only junglers build. You're complaining about a fed tank Garen who has a normal top lane build which was available until so called tank meta, and you're complaining about fighter Shyvana who wasn't even a tank, just a fighter.

I guess you just want assassins to triumph and delete everybody with no counterplay?

Poorly Dressed6/13/2015, 1:38:40 PM1 votes

Hi!

I feel there are only a few viable tanks that can do what you described above. Mainly those that have high base damage and build at least one damage item. (BC, Triforce). To be fair Ezreal is not a very solid tank killer late game as he relies mainly on his spells and his auto-attacks are fairly bad and short ranged. Spellcaster are in big trouble when face tanking bruisers. In this example Garen can also break free from the slows and charge at Ezreal at will. I feel your anger about it but it has always been the other way round when you try to charge at someone and he kills you while slowly kiting backwards - its super frustrating if you can't pressure the damage dealer. This meta might not be perfect but i think it's a step in the right direction. Especially the defensive masteries will see some change (already on PBE). So give it time to evolve :)

Extreme Troller6/13/2015, 1:40:25 PM1 votes

noob item, noob elo, with noob windows.

instant downvote.

DrNova6/13/2015, 6:01:37 PM1 votes

I'm of the opinion this is the "balanced" meta.

I've seen plenty of games loaded with tanks and plenty without. Tanks will always be anoyying due to their nature, just like assasins. Doesnt mean they are op.

In your example Garen doing more damage while Ekko has more kills means nothing. Ekko is great at "ksing", or popping low life champs. Thats why he has more kills.

Tanks drag out games and fights a little longer, but if your team payed attention in champ select dealing with tanks is normal, get tankbusters, get tanks of your own.

They are part of the game, and seems reasonable and healthy to me.

Celosar6/13/2015, 1:02:53 PM1 votes

I mostly agree but a lot of people also don't understand their role in peeling for their squishies leading to an excess of dead squishies. They also try to run through the tank line to get at the enemy squishies when they should be hitting anything they can and kiting. or positioning to get at the squishies w/o exposing themselves.

imo anyway