Thoughts from a support <(.-.<)

Tharan·Jan 18, 2015·11 votes·2,024 views

This will be a post where anyone can talk about ideas they had to make league better or worse or just more comical. As an example this was a comment I made on the Winter Wonder Ori post back on Riot's main page. I got great feedback and I know some of y'all have ideas as well. So post and harshly judge all ideas that aren't mine.

Heya y'all! I was wondering if you guys at Riot could make a button under the ward skins tab that makes every ward you place use a different ward skin that you own. Example: If I had a sightstone the first ward I placed was the Rammus ward skin, next would be the Victorious ward skin, next would be one of the poro ward skins. And we could expand this even more to custom ward sets. Where you can place ward skins you like into a set and it would auto alternate between which ones you place.

Please Riot! -Luv A Support Main

32 Comments

Devack The HolyJan 19, 20155 votes

Enable the ability to change ward skins in champ select.
Revamp the support items to make them feel more gold-efficient. I find there's often no need to build stuff like the FQC line, even as a support that lacks CC or scales phenomenally well with AP. Or do to them what you did to the jungler items and have them effect the key support SS: Exhaust.
Stop nerfing Sona. She's been hit hard enough already, and needs a few of those reverted. You already gave us a rework and a rather lackluster visual update (despite her suffering most of the same problems as Morgana), and you still proceed to nerf her into the ground.
Nerf Thresh.
Rework Blitz.
Nerf Support Morgana while buffing Mid Lane Morg. (Or just change Zhonya's to interrupt her ult.)
Bring back the "ward" pings. You even took them off the PBE, ffs. I like the ability to save a few seconds to alert my team there's a ward in that bush or that I'm going to be off warding dragon.
BRING BACK PINK ELIXR! FFS, RIOT, THAT HAS BEEN SOMETHING I'VE BEEN BEGGING FOR! IT WOULD IMMEDIATELY BALANCE STEALTH CHAMPS, NERF TEEMO AGAIN, AND NOT HAVE US HAVE TO RELY ON AN EASILY DESTROYED PINK WARD OR A RED TRINKET THAT HAS A COOLDOWN LONGER THAN MOST ULTS! SO WHAT IF THE FULLY UPGRADED RED TRINKET HAS AN ORACLE EFFECT?! IT ONLY LASTS TEN SECONDS, AND AGAINST CHAMPS LIKE TEEMO AND SHACO, THAT'S NOT LONG ENOUGH! HELL, EVEN BRINGING OVER ORACLE'S EXTRACT FROM THE OTHER MODES WOULD SUFFICE!

manbearswineJan 19, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Devack The Holy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NV91Lina,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2015-01-19T15:05:22.315+0000) 4. Nerf Thresh.

Amen.

Rework Blitz.

How exactly? Not a biggest fan of his kit but tbh I have my doubts about pretty much every tanky support except alistar.

Nerf Support Morgana while buffing Mid Lane Morg. (Or just change Zhonya's to interrupt her ult.)

BRING BACK PINK ELIXR! FFS, RIOT, THAT HAS BEEN SOMETHING I'VE BEEN BEGGING FOR! IT WOULD IMMEDIATELY BALANCE STEALTH CHAMPS,

It won't,it never has affected them,eve's passive shows her before the elixir does anyway,rengar jump pretty much does the same thing,it will give shaco some minor issues but nothing particularly devastating.

NERF TEEMO AGAIN,

well scuttle crabs were good enough imo.

AND NOT HAVE US HAVE TO RELY ON AN EASILY DESTROYED PINK WARD OR A RED TRINKET THAT HAS A COOLDOWN LONGER THAN MOST ULTS! SO WHAT IF THE FULLY UPGRADED RED TRINKET HAS AN ORACLE EFFECT?! IT ONLY LASTS TEN SECONDS, AND AGAINST CHAMPS LIKE TEEMO AND SHACO, THAT'S NOT LONG ENOUGH! HELL, EVEN BRINGING OVER ORACLE'S EXTRACT FROM THE OTHER MODES WOULD SUFFICE!

See the issue is,people think that riot gave more gold to supports with the new support items,they most certainly did not,what gave supports more money is the fact after sighstone you don't buy wards,you have a limit of one pink on the map and you don't have true sight at the cost of 100 gold/min(this really wasn't a choice back then,nor is it going to be if it goes back),it was removed because supports were assassin food due to being ward bots,And I don't see a way to bring it back without going a step back in that direction.

manbearswineJan 18, 20153 votes

1)Nerf thresh.

2)Rework the current draft model,make it so that people can trade their "slot" with someone else basically so that you could trade champions even if both people don't have said champions(the way this works is if for example I'm first pick,and the last picks want's to pick something safe and I'm afraid to get countered,I can trade slots with him so that he will be first pick,and I'll be last)

3)Nerf thresh already.

4)Stop balancing around winrates,that is stop being afraid of nerfing a champion with a low winrate or buffing a champion with a high one,did amumu really deserve his nerfs at the start of this season?(It's plain obvious they just used the preseason as an excuse,even if I don't care much for him) Does ashe really not need buffs? It's one thing when the competitive scene or the community see's a champion as problematic(or even the balance team as a game-health problem),It's a completely different thing to nerf a champion out of the blue because some arbitrary number is high(cough sona cough),or refuse to do so(cough lee,thresh,zed cough) because it is low.

5)Fucking nerf thresh already,idiotic shit has dominated for way too long and is overshadowing everyone and their mother at this point.

AdeyemonJan 18, 20152 votes

I am tired of people saying, "nerf thresh." He has a strong kit a rework is needed not a nerf

manbearswineJan 18, 20153 votes

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I am tired of people saying, "nerf thresh." He has a strong kit a rework is needed not a nerf

Except that he has a large playerbase who won't be happy about that and it's not fair to them,the same goes for lee sin and zed.

I agree that it would make sense for him to lose some of his utility,but a full rework is poor choice,even though I definitely agree he shouldn't have been created like this to begin with,but you have to work with what you've got.

OperationDEEZ1Jan 18, 20151 votes

Leona

manbearswineJan 18, 20152 votes

It's not like she's countered by flay,and will be easily harassed cause he is ranged(due to reasons),and if she tries to do the only thing she can do,she will get flayed back.

Janna is a known counter for the exact same reason,but I guess thresh players are too delusional to see it's the exact same thing with flay.

cshakesJan 19, 20151 votes

Honestly I find that the one support that can hold her own in lane against Thresh is Janna. No need to poke (get yellow support item), can stop Thresh from Q2ing in, shield gives bonus AD so ADC can deal more damage.

manbearswineJan 19, 20152 votes

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Honestly I find that the one support that can hold her own in lane against Thresh is Janna. No need to poke (get yellow support item), can stop Thresh from Q2ing in, shield gives bonus AD so ADC can deal more damage.

Well yes,that's why they keep nerfing janna.

I mean somehow the moment something competes in power with thresh it's obvious that this thing is op and needs nerfs,but thresh being op and needing nerfs is somehow not the same.

TharanJan 27, 20151 votes

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manbearswineJan 27, 20151 votes

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Thresh is the best soulless hooker in the world. Leo still is cool but she needs either a buff or a new way for people to play her.

Leona is fine,just unlike thresh,and like most supports she has some bad matchups and comps she doesn't fit well into or against.

It isn't fun to play second fiddle PUNS to Thresh. Thresh forces her to wait till he engages or if she engages she has to eat a wall from Thresh. So I don't think she will be the one to outshine him. I still like Leo against Nami though and I still like playing Leo versus Lulu (Da purple pummeler).

Do you really expect anyone to outshine thresh? the retarded garbage is intentionally op,I mean let's face it,the moment anyone competes with thresh in power(generally best reflected in competitive pick/ban rates) he get's nerfed a patch after,everyone is fully aware that anyone who is even with thresh in power is scary op,yet if you claim thresh to be op that's somehow not true,go figure.

In case y'all haven't noticed I am just a little bit biased. And if you try to nerf my Thresh I will shank y'all with various plastic/metal objects.

Yes I mean why would anyone want to see variety in a game? let's just remove draft,remove pick phase,and let each team be zed/lee/thresh +some adc and top laner(preferably lucian+renekton?) all you get to do is select which one you want to play. the thresh nerfs are completely overdue,enough of him already.

TharanJan 27, 20151 votes

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manbearswineJan 27, 20151 votes

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Sona was fairly strong.

Can't have that now,can we?

Meanwhile thresh is still god tier,for more than a year.

TharanJan 27, 20151 votes

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manbearswineJan 27, 20151 votes

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But.. but.. I like Thresh... DON'T TAKE MY LP AWAY!

Yeah there's no escape,the thresh nerfs are coming.

...in 5-10 years,right after the lee/zed nerfs.

ReikrakJan 18, 20152 votes

Thoughts from another support main:

A nice idea would be to implement one more ping, kinda like the green arrow one (x player is on is way) but with a ward on top of it - this would simbolize a player is moving towards that area to ward it. At the same time when the support uses this ping a big, red text should appear on the adc screen that reads "Your support is warding, DON'T FIGHT" - this could even implement a loud sound like the "pentakill" announcement but saying something like "DUDE... are you serious ?! Your support is warding, back off... DON'T FIGHT!". This would prevent the lovely moments when the support pings he is going to ward and does so and the adc decides to fight 1vs2 and ends up dying. Also, if after the support uses this ping the adc still fights 1vs2 and dies and on top of that blames the support there should be the possibility of removing the player from League of Legends for ever - at the click of a button.

Anyways, support rage aside now: I don't really buy or own ward skins so to me it wouldn't make a difference. At the same I can only approve this since you have the option to buy lots of ward skins and only use one at some point - doesn't make sense. +1 for the idea.

WolfBVJan 18, 20151 votes

"Remove a player from League forever by pressing one button." Sounds like this new champ's gonna be op.

ReikrakJan 18, 20151 votes

Believe it or not there would still be better champions...

WolfBVJan 18, 20151 votes

A champion that's better than 1 that can permanently delete someone from the game? :O My god.

ReikrakJan 19, 20151 votes

Well, I'm pretty sure a lot of players out there stopped playing (same as permanently deleted from game) because of champions that don't even have that ability. That alone is a beautiful thing.

qetzelJan 19, 20152 votes

+1 for "that aren't mine"

TharanJan 28, 20152 votes

summoner 31

FantasySniperJan 18, 20151 votes

I like it, but it may be weird when your teammates have to determine who placed what at a glance.

EverTokkiJan 19, 20151 votes

I'm a support and I love ward skins,(and I love warding) But I just don't have a way to pay for rp. :(

DoFrJan 19, 20151 votes

create new upgrades of SS, other than just health. most (If not all) supports rush Sightstone and change the trinkets into oracle. now if you made SS upgrades into more supportish item, other than more health, it would be super great, like maybe after every couple placements of wards, you get a Free pink ward. or keeps passively giving gold.

or have couple of colors of SS, that further effects the exhausts, sorta like smite. Requirtment of upgrading Exhaust would be needing a SS, and atleast 1 support item, Either Ancient Coin(makes Exhaust more Glowish Yellow), Spell thief Edge(Glowish Blue), Relic Shield (Glowish Green)

Exhausting an enemy champion while having an Ancient Coin ,or any of it's upgrades) and having SS. instantly Reduces the Cooldowns of you and your closest alley by 2 seconds.

having any upgrades of spell edge thief and SS, casting Exhaust on an enemy Champion would slow the AS of Minions and Towers on Radius Around The Targetted Enemy Champions for 1-1.5 Seconds.

having the Relic Shield or any of it's upgradements along side with SS, Casting Exhaust on an Enemy Champions Draws aggro From all minions and Towers.

just some wild ideas, gotta think outside of the box guys, and creating new solutions.

TharanJan 27, 20151 votes

I like the idea of SS upgrades. I wanna be cool like the jangler too. But I don't know if reducing cool downs or another form of cc is the way to go about it. I like idea of giving a sight stone ap, health, or attack damage, upgrades. I even had the idea of mixing the support item with the sightstone but that would probably too broken because of the fact that would give supports another slot to build a rabadons or a third thornmail.