Garen Needs A Nerf

sirjace··6 votes·5,264 views
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So i open op LOL and see a new patch a read it i see (oh hey we buffed garren) said this game is shit let it finish updating and left it alone for the next while. To night i play ranked saying ok so ill play a top lane mal early game tank late game get a bit of ap so i can kill the mage and the adc then 4th pick a see a garen. I think about just closing my game now but then i think well lets hope he's shit then in the loading screen i see he has a skin and i say oh fuck to my self i proceed to draw first blood on the guy and say ehh well lets just hope he's bad.

So we are playing a good game my team has more kills more objectives more towers i think cool we are going to win then garen who has for the last 5 min just been solo farming top lane. When we have been pushing and playing the game decides to come down then our game was still good but then just went to shit. Buy about 30 so min in, garen walks in with his team and we win the trade an the only one still alive on there team is garen.... so we then proceed to spend the next 1:30 min !!!!!!!! all 5 of us trying to kill this spinning ass hole who (yes we are all spamming our cc and our skills at him) after 90 seconds we say fuck because we have been beating his ass for that long.

An ya know this made me create this forum because in terms of balance what champ in the whole game can say they lasted in a 1v5 for a min and a half other then garen. Also because his is a 450 ip champ. As a summoner feel that they are OP (Ex annie, WW, garren, poppy, yi, ashe) just about every champ that costs 450 ip can beat a 6400 ip champ any time, any where. (brings up a yi vs a yassuo (yi walks away with full hp) yi wins like instantly) so as a side note i would like to ask if all 450 IP champs can be removed from playing in ranked. Because you see your fighting yi and a garen and there whole team dies yet those 2 pull fucking pentas and win the game 2v5 the 450 IP champs are OP don't lie riot.

it's for the people who are starting the game so they have something to learn from that is well OP for the new players yet if you have rune's and mastery's set up for garen and you play him oh my god by mid game you are literately unstoppable so... 1 garen doesn't use mana 2 you build him right its impossible to stop him from running with his q across the map and under his turret. Where he stands there and re-gens 25 hp a second and then his passive kicks in and he's got like 100 hp re-gen in a second. So he just stands there its impossible to dive him because he's to tankey to kill. (our team had vayne adc with armor pen and it still took us that long to kill him so as garren once you hit full build not even a whole team can stop you (this one wasnt even full build). So he runs up hits our teams mage with a silence and then spins and his team wins he had 4 deaths and yet he took 39.1k dmg (he took the most dmg in the game) (also he had the least amount of deaths in game) <---- anything wrong with that ?

yea riot i have my evidence where is yours garen is OP and needs to be nerfed ik he is one of the original champs when the game was first released but chage his kit and most of all change his passive no champ should re-gen around 100 hp per second and have around 5000 hp with insane amounts of armor and magic resist. and be able to 1v5 a team. yes i expect no one to see and or read it as every garen main will undervote it and it will go no where just rember if you down vote this then your a garen main and may your sole rest in teemos land (aka hell) and Up vote this if your not a garen main i need all the help i can get

15 Comments

Only Play Darius6 votes

You know what this post is loaded with?

redniwediS2 votes

NA, CLearly it's legit.

King Odin4 votes

You sound so ridiculous, the price of a champion has nothing to do with there power. It just means that they were created a long time ago. Price has nothing to do with power at all. I am guessing none of you all had any penetration at all if you couldnt 1 v 5 a Garen. Really think about what you're saying before posting especially as you're Bronze 5 and mightn't know how to handle tanks effectively

sirjace1 votes

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mightn't know how to handle tanks effectively

i play tanks m8 and yes we did have armor pen (so i said) and the price dose tie in not to the stats but in tearms of the kit very much so an dose it matter if im in b5 dood i play well but you try and carry when your just a supp yea you get the adc fed but that dosnt help if mid fed a LB and your adc is just pop deleted

Ra1d2 votes

As a main Garen I can say this, he has a ton of survivability. Can't tell you how many times my friends were shocked I made it out of a situation alive, usually with about 100 HP. That doesn't make him op just hard to kill. And in most 1v5 situations any decent team would kill me in 5 seconds because as Garen you don't have the damage or cc that would get you out alive. I've gotten maybe 2 or 3 pentad with garen and it was because my team fought really well and I happened to get the kill. Yes in a 1v1 garen can cream nearly any champion, but in a team fight garen is heavily reliant on his teams ability to use cc and damage cus he is a DPs damage dealer with a good chunk of sustain, he's not a install kill assassin or a hardcore tank with a ton of cc.

Obsolete Designs1 votes

Even after 12 months, I can tell you... Garen can instakill the ad/ap carry, Q into E into R. Like it wasn't enough, you just have to W to reduce the incoming damage so you can make it alive. Even though I don't think he's still that broken, I really think he needs a little nerf.

Goujian1 votes

How the hell did it take you 1.5 minutes to kill a Garen? His regen doesn't work if you poke him regularly which I'd HOPE you'd have been doing. He can't exactly disengage very well and run off to heal either. No, seriously, how?

JFRANKSTA1 votes

lol

Saint of SlN1 votes

This is absurd. Garen is one of the weakest top laners. Locking in Garen is a crap-shoot, you win or lose your lane in the loading screen. Many top champs will dominate him no matter what he does. If anything he needs a buff.

Acej0k3r1 votes

What are you talking about? Bro this is my smurf and its not ranked but i do know how op a garren is. Even if all top laners as you say can beat him ...like at early game only and at late game if the garren is smart....he wont 5v1 and your team is done in a team fight.Unless you got another broken ass champ like darius and tanks like that really limits peoples champ choice like now you need to play teemo to counter it if its draft or ranked but if its blind good luck.FACTS tanks are easy to play and i believe there should be a chance to demonstrate skill in a fair play. Atleast lower dmg for garren greatly or maybe his chance to escape like he will walk out form the fight and i swear thats annoying. Lowering dmg early game is one of the best solution for garren and darius so they can play like mundo all though i dont approve of comparing them but mundos dmg and focus is low all though his ult is op and allows him to 5v1 ...its something limited.

The Shanky Shark1 votes

yea ok bud garen is op af

Garen's Pros:

First off, he's a good tank.

He has a Q that is basically a speed boost, silence, cleanse, and damage put into one.

His ult is insanely good and if u build him he can use his ult like twice as many times as anyone else.

His regen. What the heck? Too op, u can't attack him in a 1v1 in a lane because he'll just run and regen to full in like 0.00001 seconds.

No cost whatsoever for any of his abilities... this is unique to him. Even champs like Mord and Aatrox have health costs

Hard to catch him considering he can cleanse speed debuffs and outrun most champs.

Cons ( I legit had to think pretty hard to figure these out):

He has no range (but this doesn't even matter...)

No AP? But that doesn't even matter...

No jumping/teleporting/dashing maneuvers

And thats why garren needs a nerf

same with jax/teemo/ashe

Lord Ligma1 votes

I agree with you. Everyone one this post who says you're just salty or bad can kick rocks. You did you research and brought a valid arguement here but sadly Riot won't see this nor will they care because it's not about what the people want it's about what Riot feels like doing. I know this post is kind of old but after seeing that Riot was going to rework Garen I had actually started to think they might actually turn him into more of a overall better champion however that's sadly not what happened. They updated Fiora, people were more concerned about her splash art than that they basically changed the whole champion. Riot didnt bother changing the splash art even though a big chunk of the fans wanted it changed. They took Garen and buffed him with a "rework". He's stil the same spin to win champion with a silence(which in my personal open only Cho'gath should have one) and a Big F U of an ult that can now deal true damage. In short I know this won;t ever happen but I still wish for a huge Garen nerf.

SuperCosmicHobo1 votes

I think the only annoying part of Garen is his ult scaling and the silence (this one is actually alright), other than that, he's cool.

Extasios1 votes

LOL GUYS. The game is from last year.[zombie-brand-clap] [zombie-brand-facepalm]

Death Pierce Me1 votes

My only real problem with Garen is his special attack Judgment. Basically it's link's sword spin attack except you can move around and it shreds your armor. This is an attack that's meant to deal with multiple targets at once yet once you max it out, because it shreds your armor, it deals even more damage to an enemy than normal meaning you can go 1v1 against an opposing player and brutalize them. The only real counter I can think of, if one plans to use melee instead of ranged attacks, is to choose Rammus, buy yourself any item that has the passive effect thorns on it, go at him while using defensive ball curl, and pray to god either it scares him away or he, at the very least, takes just as much damage as you do. Then again, you can be a joyless turd and choose an abhorrent champion yourself like Annie and Teemo, beecuz evrie budy luvs thoes too. The devs at Riot can fix it by giving Garen's judgment attack one of the following trade offs:

  1. Garen's movement speed is reduced while using judgment
  2. Garen's armor and magic resist are, at the very least, cut in half while using judgment.
  3. Have decisive strike be the attack that shreds the armor of enemy champions while judgment inflicts silence (though personally, I want judgment to inflict no status effects at all.)

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