WHY IS TENACITY A THING?????

REMOVE TENACITY·2/2/2020, 12:07:30 AM·1 votes·1,278 views

Shouldn't players be punished for overstepping?? Shouldn't champions who stun from fog of war or from fancy flash engages be rewarded with a combo followup? Many champions, ESPECIALLY control mages RELY on landing their crowd controls. We are in a season where some select champions can go well over 500 movespeed near permanently with one ability. It's already bad enough that it's 100x harder to land skillshots on them when they move that fast but the ONE or TWO times in the game you do finally land the crowd control, they still walk away because of item 3111 stacked with champion tenacity or rune tenacity.

Like when I play Veigar I have to overstep into the enemies trade range when I catch them with my E wall. I win the trade normally because I can input my Q,W in sync with my stun duration.

When people buy item 3111 for a mere 1100g now suddenly when I catch an enemy with my wall, THEY are the ones moving freely when I'm about to followup with my Q,W combo and I get punished for THEM overstepping into my wall. This is not fucking fair. For 1100g you can pretty much delete my E. I basically only have Q,W, and R to land against someone who is already running permanently at 500+ movespeed.

You want to know what the crowd goes wild over? When someone gets caught and rightfully combo'd for it. item 3111 rewards players WAY too well for only 1100g. It not only makes you 2-3 tiers higher at positioning EVEN THOUGH you get caught the same amount of times, but it also pretty much deletes any control mages ONE reliable crowd control.

Is there even any Item I can buy to restore the duration of my Crowd Control? NOPE. I just have to play 2-3 tiers higher and hope my skillshots can 100 to 0 someone with item 3111 . Or at this point can't even focus that player even though they may be an important target to take down in every fight.

That's the game we play. This is our current status. We have champions who have no escapes and 1 slow ability or 1 stun ability who just become 100% irrelevant the moment someone takes tenacity runes or buys item 3111 .

Why do you guys bait players into falling in love with a champions lores and skins when that SAME champion becomes irrelevant the moment this item is bought??? There's literally no item that I can build to counter that. All anyone can say is "well you shouldn't have been interested in that champion, just play someone else. It's too bad you invested months of practice into that one champion that looked really cool but yeah, you don't matter in this current Season and possibly the future seasons."

Sincerely, very frustrated and mentally burnt out Veigar player from Season 1 who can't keep a single account because he tilts every time someone walks into Veigar Wall and leaves the stunned position BEFORE THE Q W COMBO CAN EVEN DROP...

Edit: I hope CertainlyT ruins the game even more to the point you forum trolls jerking eachother off end up finding another game.

34 Comments

Woodakoodashooda2/2/2020, 12:47:54 AM6 votes

Alright, I've read through the OP's posts and here is what their complaint boils down to in a nut shell.

"I one trick Veigar, get rid of tenacity so I can one trick Veigar better"

Edit: I suggest we stop posting to this topic. THe OP is an attention seeking troll as made apparent by their reply to every post

Humb1e Rumb1e2/2/2020, 12:10:13 AM3 votes

Shouldn't everything have counter option? Especially CC in meta where seconds are difference between life and death.

FeedKaylePlease2/2/2020, 2:53:02 AM3 votes

Oh wow. So we are complaining about this now?

Jbels2/2/2020, 12:28:02 AM2 votes

You're complaining that Tenacity shouldn't be a thing when it barely is a thing anymore. Oh hey, good thing tenacity doesn't affect knockups when Riot has added so much knock up to this game it feels like a whore house that doesn't care whether or not you use protection.

KFCeytron2/2/2020, 12:40:30 AM2 votes

If Tenacity were to be removed, all stuns/etc. would have their base duration lowered. They're balanced around opponents having some Tenacity in the same way that Mundo is balanced around having GW applied to him at all times.

Veigar E at max rank stuns for 2.5 seconds. W hits after 1.25 seconds. Why are you waiting so long to follow up on your combo?