Please revert his ultimate changes and make it stay for 3/4/5 seconds instead of 3 seconds at all ranks. People that play Azir mostly use his ultimate as peel tool, not a damage tool.
(Edit: Had to edit a post because it was very hard to understand.)
OneTrickPigeon16 votesTo clarify, what he's talking about is the Azir ult nerf. It no longer stops dashes when the animation is over... only when it's in motion. This was a very important part of his gameplay. His ult is meant for self peel/team peel, not just for it's crazy insec plays. RIOT PLEASE REVERT THE BOUNCING WE NEED IT.
Fosty2 votes^ What he said!
LegendmakerGX6 votesFelt beyond stupid that they would remove the bounce back from his ult. Fk the 6 man ult line I'd rather keep the wall bounce because that's his 2nd most important kit of surviving. Especially when the ult push isn't really that big of a range.
SpecterVonBaren2 votesWell Riot decided it was more important to preserve the Shurima Shuffle than make Azir be **closer ** to his gameplay fantasy of a long range DPS mage commanding a legion of soldiers.
LYRKL2 votesUgh a big part about Azir is playmaker option to go in for the shurima shuffle, and this just ruins him.
this really needs to be reverted, he needs it.
public int true11 votesI'd rather azirs ult do 0 dmg instead of losing the bounce back
Bhagswag2 votesAs someone who once farmed so many games just to buy him, I'd 100% be fine with no damage Ult, as long as knockback remains and the wall doesn't turn to water in 2 seconds.
Eleyte1 votesim trying to figure out that you are actually trolling or not
Fosty2 votesYeah because we all used it for peel tool.
Good Dragan9 votesRIOT PLEASE LET IT BOUNCE! I BEG THEE
HOT BEEF 1 votesIt just caused waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too many bugs and to be fair they did attempt fixing it
SweedishGunner6 votesI kinda just like Azir as he is now. He's not breaking SoloQ or LCS, he's hard to learn but rewarding.
He's been slowly getting buffs to make him better, but then this rework comes along and is about as half assed as can be.
Fosty7 votesYeah, It is pretty sad. I still remember maining him in 2015. Oh that were the days. :(
Bârd1 votesThe days when Azir was more bug than man... well, bird.
Poske6 votesthe rework is horrible
WQ no longer has range R isnt unique anymore He gained another passive related to number 3 Farming wiht him early ll be even more odd.
Only time he ll function is when he ll dive the enemy team with his e (VERY smart xd) so that he can proc his triple soldier thingy early enough..
The fact that azir ahs to dive with E to maximize its dps fks him up
Prevously he would only E enemies when he was going for shurima shuffle
Bârd1 votesI'm fine with Q losing range. I think that's fine considering the power added with the E buff.
I'm fine with W losing waveclear, since he gets more AS.
I hate the ult change. I hate the soldier death range nerf.
SwiftKitten885 votesi think the new change is brilliant.. the dash block was a bullshit mechanic and it causes SOO many issues since his release. this would be a fantastic change.
HOT BEEF 4 votespersonally i thought that the dash block came in quite handy against many ahris
Fosty3 votesLol sure. So who will help us from dashing Akalis, Yasuos etc..
DorkunedAuras2 votesDon't have an auto fuck you card against them? Maybe position more carefully and get good at dashing?
Dengeden3 votesNo. That screws over melees.
Djano2 votesI am actually enjoying the rework on the PBE so far, I think riot is doing a great job with it. Just know that nothing on the PBE is set in stone and everything is subject to change. That being said, I don't think the wall will get reverted because it offers counterplay for dash champions to fight azir such as ahri that are now given an option to jump over the wall after being knocked back by the initial cast. I enjoy the new wall much more than the old one because of the new length of it alone. I would rather have the extra soldier length instead of the infinite dash block any day of the week. Not to even mention that they reduced the cooldown by 20 seconds at all levels on top of that.
Spank the Fox2 votesAhri is a champion who should have the least problems vs Azir.
TyrekGoldenspear2 votesWell. As a guy who plays Azir a TON....
This ult change on the PBE is gonna suck.
HOT BEEF 1 votesthe ult change is a buff there is 1 extra soldier for every rank that you level up. Unless the wall blocks allies and azirs off then i could see it as a nerf since it does say that the wall acts as normal terrain after.
Poske2 votesIts a nerf because now everyone can jump over it unless its sliding
DorkunedAuras2 votesGonna suck for you guys, as you have to actually time your ult. It still does the same thing at removing a Xin, Jax, or other Diver who's jumped on you. Still shoves them off. I personally hated how the wall was just "No passing here, period. Fuck you for daring to try and attack me, foolish diver". If the Diver still has a jump to get over the wall after that, you probably fucked up your positioning/CD usage to allow them and really deserve to be punished. Or they're Vi and didn't care about your ult anyway. This is something that only adds to Azir's skill floor, which means that Riot is fully embracing that anyone who plays Azir with fewer than 40 games is probably going to end up reported for feeding.
TyrekGoldenspear1 votesJust gonna say.
This is Azir's ULT.
And new Azir won't have the range of this one, so yeah. It will be easier than ever for a diver to kill him now.
Papa Rinky2 votesIf you are only using Azir's wall as a defensive tool, then you are just flat out playing the champion sub optimally. The Shurima Shuffle is CORE to what Azir is and why most people play him.
Fosty3 votesYou dont have to use his ultimate for Shurima Shuffle only. You can but it can be used as a good peel tool.
King of Demons1 voteswhat?
Fosty10 votesAzirs wall used to bounce off enemies dashing in but now it slowly moves to target location and then acts as normal terrain which means that people can dash/flash over it. As Azir player I use my ult to get Akalis, Yasuos, Rengars off me, as a peel tool. Not a damage tool. Understand now?
Tik1151 votesI think the only way they could remove the bounceback is if they let him move while casting
As of right now he can only start moving again right before the soldiers stop, at least without the bounceback he would of gotten a decent chunk of distance before they jump over it
Death by Glamour1 votesCan it currently be broken by ornn?
Fosty4 votesMost likely will be after rework. Since when soldiers arrive and then act like terrain, just like Anivia's Wall, Trundle's pillar etc.
Death by Glamour1 votesThat's why I think it's getting rework
Fosty4 votesNo, he is getting a rework because he was gutted to a unplayable state
Poske5 voteshe is getting rework because they dont think he should ever be viable in his current state
WHICH IS CANCEROUS AUTISTIC STUPID LOGIC AND REASONING
Specially when we have cancers like twitch stealth team one shoting. Or cho gath being 5k hp CC machine which invilidates every melee carry in game
They never actually tried to balance azir
THEY JSUT CALLED HIM FKING unhealthy despite him having counterplay
Rylai azir gave them to much nightmares. and since rylai is no longer what it used to be (Infact its also gutted) azir wont be opressive once buffed
Instead of buffing his mid game damage a bit and lowering the ulti cooldown which would bounce back azir to viability they are doing this autistic rework with bad direction changes
None of their suggest directions are good. and they so far did BOTH directions IN THE SAME TIME
How did AZIR get on a rework list before half of divers/ garen beats me...
Death by Glamour1 votesI was specifically talking about that ability
Death by Glamour4 votesThough let's be honest with ourselves.
He ended up in that state because he was an oppressive lane bully with a godlike late game.
Tattersall1 votesI think it actually can.
Octavia1 votesthey are reworking him this patch
Fosty15 votesComplaining on his rework. Not live version.
Jet Sett1 votesSo Azir wall will become anti dash and then basically every mobile champ that he could peel away with the wall will have free reign over him a second after? I mean I haven't gotten a good look at the new Azir, so maybe positioning isn't worth a damn on him.
HOT BEEF 1 votespositioning feels more of a necessity now more than ever. It is highly unlikely that you will be shuffle every game and make those huge plays. You are probably going to be forced to learn to kite and position with the new azir
13900 Essence1 votesProbably more balanced to have it be impassable rather than do 450 base damage at rank 3 with a 60% scaling.
I can foresee tank azir becoming meta.