What do you guys think of riot wanting all matches ending on average at 20min?
The way the game is in its current state doesn't feel right to me, that's just my opinion. i hope other people do enjoy it tho.
(ps. potato counts as slower matches also)
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This shorter matches thing is bullshit, whats the point? Dominion, Aram, those maps are short, now Rift? it was epic to win a 40-50 minutes game when you were loosing, now it is boring and I don't see people having fun or feeling that the game is a challenge. I think many people will now stop playing league.
If games start averaging 20 minutes, I will definitely be playing something else.
Have they actually stated they want matches to end in this time, or is the game just so unbalanced atm that small leads immediately spiral out of control.
i wouldn't care if matches ended at 20 mins if they were actually close games or something like that but... games are pretty much a one sided stomp 80% of the time now and comeback is near impossible, Turrets are made of paper, minions auto push waves when you are ahead so unless you have someone 24/7 in a lane minions will take out the now worthless turrets, turrets give way too much damn gold so teams that are ahead get even further ahead, splitpushing is so god damn easy now and if you don't have someone constantly matching up the splitpush then you will easily lose inhibs just because someone can just walk and beat up the turrets and 100-0 them with no effort whatsoever. AP champions got fucked over in both items and masteries, late game champions are screwed since unless they go godlike at the start of the game there is no reason to pick them at all since they never reach their power spike.
The only 20min games I've had are surrenders. All other games have been 35+ minutes. Most of my wins have been comebacks (and losses too for that matter). Everything people are saying right now about game pace is complete horseshit.
Games imo should end roughly 25-30 mins. With 15:00 being surrender time. If they want Shorter Games then update Dominion(please do) or twisted Treeline(5 v 5 pls) or Aram.
This is probably their solution to having a quick game mode since they can't be bothered with fixing dominion or 3v3.
If this is the case, then you can consider any late game champion (assuming no one is 13/1 by the 20 minute mark) obsolete.
Yes, 35+ minute games are straining However, you also have to take into consideration of how this will affect champion picks. It will take an entire section of champions out of the question because they dont get their 'power-spike' until later in the game.
You might as well just play assassins 24/7.
With the buffed minions, its going to be even more difficult to pull a come back as well.
Its literally like a game of chess, you make 2-3 bad moves and it costs you the entire thing.
Maybe its because morale is so low thanks to the community, people keep surrendering at 20. Hmmm?
I do love potatoes :)
I don't mind if matches end faster, but balance the game to reflect that. You shouldn't be ending a game with only one item. Lower gold costs across the board so that you'll have 4-5 items by 20 minutes. Drop surrender time to 10 minutes I'm having trouble thinking right now, but what I'm getting at is that if they want shorter games, at least make those games fun and eventful.
The problem is that easy-to-play champs and those who can literally faceroll easily are over the top. they snowball far to easy and out of control leaving almost no counterplay. the fact that some champs farm easier than others just make it worse because even if you are only slightly behind you will most likely lose your lane.
Some champs have a weak early and need the protection of their tower to survive. i ve seen squishy champs diving others easily as their early is now even more empowered which should never be the case. The hardnerf on towers is just strange, not justifyable.
People complaining about games taking so long have no idea what the game actually is about, all they see is high damage getting others down with just 2-3 hits. that is not fun , nore tactic its just the Call of doodee of the MMO's.
I had nothing against making ADC better for their early game as they got easily shut down there by others but why buff something extremely while nerfing everything else?
Masteries are a mess right now, i can't understand these changes. they wanted to provide more individual choises and possibilities but took out over half of the customization part. Why give certain champions such immensive power over others, shouldn't it be the player himself that decide how powerful his/her champ is?
I know it will be nerfed and its hard to ballance with having so many champions , but how could some masteries even make it into the game? who thought that the new guinoos rageblade was a good idea? if you can't handle ballance on so many champs why you even get them out so frequently before fixing the others first? why do you have to be so impatient about releasing stuff if it cleary isn't tested out completely.
I don't want to be forced to play the champions that are good just because them or their given equipment got buffed, i play champions because i like their mechanics, design etc.
Try to play mana hungry champs right now, try champs that rely on lifedrain. everything that felt so unique and fun now feels more like a rushed slaughterfest. people don't even consider teaming up anymore, all they see it kills here kills there,sacrifising their whole team just because a jax, a kayle or a yasuo feel like killing everything and then post " lolol you suck" as they spam their abilities all over the place with no risk and getting rewarded for it.
I don't like that every game is 20 minutes or shorter. but I do like it if some games are that fast. and I don't like every game to be longer than 30 minutes.
I want the pacing to be slower than it is now, but I am glad the the game is faster than it was before.
Weird all my games average 35 minutes
I personally feel 20 minutes is too short. That is like ARAM levels of time which are meant to be quick games.
I also don't want games lasting an hour either.
If the meta makes it so games end from 20-50 minutes I feel it would be fine. It would allow early game comps to still exist while also allowing late game ones to work well as well without making the game so slow. Having games be won by the 5-10 minute mark is a joke, but having a game where its 60 minutes in and 1 teamfight determinds the winner also is pretty dumb.
I think that RIOT made this change in order to buff lane bullies.
For the entire Season 5 we had constant complaints about late game champions (whether it was Nasus, Tristana, Jinx, or Vayne, doesn't matter: there always was at least one), the strongest argument for this being that shutting them early didn't matter beacuse they'd come back, thanks to the longer games.
The most effective fix to this is to make games shorter, so that after being stomped in lane they can't farm their way back into the late game.
Before 3 years when TT was existing games there take more time than average ranked game now. The team which is winning snowball more than before so some when you win in early game it' s GG. No more comebacks and turnarounds. RIP lategame champs
Definitely miss the longer games. having a game average of 20 minutes is honestly trashy :(
My last four matches have been surrenders. I have yet to play a single +40 minute match since preseason. There is something very, very wrong here.
please change the title because the only reason riot wanted to make matches shorter was because earlier this season everyone complained about how matches were dragging on and were too long hence them making these changes
Yeah riot fucked up the whole concept of League for me, the comebacks no longer exist if you die twice in lane it's impossible to win lane again. Turrets are nothing you messed it up please revert LoL before the 5.22 patch and bring back the old animation and sound of statik shiv the new one sucks
No, actually peple have something to do in their life the game END faster is the right thing to do.