is illaoi ever going to get fixed?

Slappy ThreeFeet·3/15/2016, 6:25:24 PM·7 votes·1,552 views

tentacles are her main source of damage, but they're easy to kill and take a long time to spawn. she's got pretty nice ratios, but all of her abilities are really easy to dodge. her ult can put some serious work in, provided the enemy team focuses you, the tank, instead of the rest of your team.

she's a classic case of "lots of damage but no way to reliably deal it", and her winrate (a staggeringly low 44% across all divisions) reflects that.

what could be done to fix her? will riot ever do so?

46 Comments

darkmatchwaldo3/15/2016, 7:41:55 PM3 votes

She is a juggernaut, not a tank. She fits in the same category of Darius Skarner Mordekaiser . All of them have easy to dodge abilities, good ults, and can put in work when focused in a team fight. HOWEVER, there is a price to pay for that. No mobility, easy to kite, non-reliable damage sources.

Mordekaiser Skarner Darius all have higher win rates because they've been around for awhile and they all have their own dedicated "mains." Her win rate is low because she's a newer champion and not that many people have figured out how to carry games with her. People who have 50-125 games played as her actually have a 56.62% win rate...interestingly enough. I wouldn't say she's under powered, just difficult to use effectively.

Also, i don't know what source you used to get a 44% but champion.gg has her at 48%.

Anraton3/15/2016, 6:28:03 PM1 votes

think about how she is ment to be played :-D

Full Metal Griip3/15/2016, 6:47:25 PM1 votes

no sheis bad, she is good bc she is easy to kill and win late game

faresb20003/15/2016, 7:14:43 PM1 votes

She can teamfight her ult is a great teamfighting tool Although she doesnt really have any cc Doesnt mean she is bad it is like saying darius is a bad teamfighter or rumble just because illaoi has one slow doesnt mean she is bad rumble has his ult and his e illaio tentacles passive is great with healing also think about this build with illaio frozen mallet steraks black cleaver spirit boot of swiftness or any boots besides mobility and deadmans if not dead mans warmogs and if you dont like frozen mallet warmogs or dead man's

faresb20003/15/2016, 7:35:35 PM1 votes

I am sorry for the explanations But still stop saying she is bad every champ is good in a sense like sion although he can be kited he is still good

Nekusen3/16/2016, 5:34:51 AM1 votes

once you do your ult combo you have enough tentacles to get an easy penta. she also is very tanky, and perhaps she is the tank with the highest aoe damage output.

also, having an initial delay is something they put on champions to balance out mobility, chase potential or kiting, for example being ezreal having an initial delay on almost every ability. i personally think it makes champions clunky, but true that without them they would be almost impossible to deal with. illaoi is extremely strong late game, so to balance her out, she has skillshots with delay in lane so she won't snowball too fast.

and then there is riven, which doesn't make sense.

Variks the Loyal3/16/2016, 7:20:27 AM1 votes

Illaoi is a Juggernaut. Illaoi Darius Garen Skarner Mordekaiser Nasus

This means, by definition, she:

Is very kitable.
Is very slow.
Brings very little utility.
Has extremely telegraphed attacks and a very telegraphed playstyle.

It, however, also means:

She is extremely tanky.
She deals a massive amount of close-range damage. Massive amount.
Is amazing in teamfights.

Illaoi requires:

A tank, to initiate. But she herself is part of the frontline.
A tank or support to either hold enemies in place, or give Illaoi means to catch people.

Items that help Illaoi reach targets:

Iceborn Gauntlet. Seriously. It's perfect for her.
Frozen Mallet. Not as good as Iceborn. But okay.
Black Cleaver. The movement speed helps. You'd be surprised how tanky she is in the early game with just this.
Boots of Swiftness or Mercury's Treads.
Dead Man's Plate. Obvious.
Banshee's Veil if you wanna block imparing abilities. Or Spirit Visage, for better healing. Your choice.

EcchiOtakuTM3/17/2016, 3:23:10 AM1 votes

What illaoi should be:

Same base stats

All physical damage changed to magical damage and hybrid scaling

Q: Additionally interrupts, roots vessels

This would keep illaoi's kit, lower her damage(due to no more black cleaver synergy) and make her much more reliable to use while it wouldn't fix her major flaw of move and you live but I like that aspect of her design.

Her major flaw is as said earlier all of her kit is avoidable if you don't get flustered and just reposition yourself (Which lower elo seem to have a hard time doing vs higher elo who can move around easily/easier)

The reason she had such a flaw is her damage potential with just black cleaver due to multi-hits stacking it up fast, however it's still nothing special to make up for her not having CC

This idea I suggest would fix her to be much more reliable while lowering her damage somewhat making her much more consistent for balance purposes and usefulness to a team.

faresb20003/15/2016, 6:26:06 PM1 votes

She is good

thebodyH2O3/22/2016, 12:41:14 AM1 votes

IDK how good or bad of a pick she is. I simply ALWAYS BAN ILLAOI bc i HATE the f'ing tentacle mini game she forces me to play. F'ing HATE it. I will ban her every game until they remove that ability.