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How is Aphelios and Senna balanced? along with other overtuned Reworks and new Champions

Vile Odium·1/25/2020, 6:11:11 PM·57 votes·20,732 views

https://gyazo.com/7065626a942b9ed213b453f9267886ab This statement is very relevant to how strong Senna is. But basically she has STRONG early game STRONG late game, sustain, safe range(highest range in the game) Very safe champion overall with the (curse of the black mist) INSANE damage and global ultimate. Her kit has too much details that make her broken, Same with Aphelios. I cant understand why riot is making BROKEN champions including reworks that make the game just frustrating to play. Aphelios and Senna are just abominations of champions.

Qiyana same thing, she can oneshot without ultimate easily and overall kit overtuned Mordekaiser INSANE SAFE, Can ult if people try to gank him. Forces qss INSANE tank insane Damage. He has everything. Just broken Rengars damage is way way way too high he kills everything in his path Vladimir same as rengar but Vladimir is also a tank with a 1000 heal+hourglass+pool. You cant really win a game vs a good vladimir its impossible in 25 minutes beyond that. He will oneshot 2-3 people or more EASILY. Sett same stuff, Tank Assassin

These champions i talked about are the biggest problems of league and deserves to get removed or just BIG nerfs. They are just making the game so unbalanced unhealthy unplayable. really disgusting how league has evolved. If you look back at old seasons they werent champions like this. Not even close. So if it keeps up like this i will need to quit this game because its not skill anymore. It is only who picks the NEW champion the NEW REWORK they will win because there is NO skill in playing these champions.

110 Comments

Legendary Ayachi1/25/2020, 8:41:27 PM14 votes

Just played Nami against Kaisa Senna . Blow up instantly in 1.2 seconds and that's with Bone Plating. Long trades mean nothing anymore. Just perma all-in and instagib. But hey! That's what people like these days huh? The word "outplay" used to be for when your rely on your skill expression and game experience to gain a favorable outcome. Nowadays you "outplay" people with the NEW champion and which ones are blatantly strong.

XDMB128X1/25/2020, 6:18:08 PM13 votes

Ya, I feel ya! I just posted about this not 30 minutes ago, with things that need changing! Riot and this season are in a rough spot. But it doesn't seem like anyone at riot even cares :/

iiGazeii1/25/2020, 7:12:11 PM11 votes

Senna is extremely immobile. Everything she does is on a long delay, including her autoattacks. Her cooldowns are long, yet she had mana issues early, and she has no form of self-peel. However, she MUST play aggressive to scale, since she doesn't gain AD per level and only stacks it through her passive. If you can poke her out and force her to play safe, she'll become useless.

Aphelios is uber-squishy and slow. He does sickening levels of damage, but he's made of wet paper, with one of the lowest MRs in the game. Any engage support or burst mage support can ruin him. His base stats are low, and his early game guns encourage him to play passively, so bullies like Draven, Jhin, and Caitlyn can take priority from him and dominate the early game.

Qiyana is extremely weak pre-3, giving her lane opponent the opportunity to bully her and get her low enough to prevent an all-in when her kit does come online. She's also dependent on her mobility, so any form of hard CC that lands should crush her. Rush an armor item, and don't follow Qiyana when she roams. Focus on taking the tower and surviving her mid-game spike.

Żügżwäng1/25/2020, 8:30:04 PM8 votes

They're not. Watching lec even the casters are commenting on how ridiculous Senna is. No clue how she starts with such insane range. Her autoattacks also feel too quick, but I guess if they want to keep her as adc and not just support that won't be nerfed. I still don't like her global ult, an easy fix would be to limit range on the damage part, the global range on shield I do like though.

Reksee1/25/2020, 10:36:33 PM7 votes

I would be fine with Senna if they obliterated her early game. Just knock her early base damages down and put her base attack range at 525 or 550.

destroyer227191/25/2020, 11:41:31 PM4 votes

They can't nerf Senna because of her prestige skin that's going to be released soon.

Hensetsu1/25/2020, 11:29:27 PM4 votes

When I play Swain I find Senna pretty balanced.

I land E and she takes 40 - 60% of her max HP in damage.

I do this 2/3 times and she's either zoned or dead.

She doesn't seem to be very good at trading y'know. A Brand or a Zyra will give as good as they in the damage department, you always gotta on your toes. A Thresh / Blitz will test your positioning and lock you down long enough for the ADC to kill you. You gotta be on your toes with them too.

With Senna it's a case of "When can I run this chick down?".

There are FAR worse things to lane against.

Gath Immortal1/25/2020, 11:44:14 PM4 votes

Aphelios Senna Akali Caitlyn Ekko Heimerdinger LeeSin MasterYi Mordekaiser Ornn Qiyana Rengar Riven Senna Sett Zoe Yasuo Tryndamere Illaoi

the list of champions who are either massively overpowered or complete ass cancer to play against is way too long.

Netorare1/26/2020, 5:47:35 PM4 votes

Because riot is completely braindead when it comes to balance.

Baby Ghoul1/26/2020, 9:03:40 AM2 votes

The only time Senna isn't safe is when she's laning against Nautilus, and that's because his hook hitbox is stupid and Riot made the choice to buff his damage last year.

Yeah she's "extremely immobile," but let's put that into context. She's "extremely immobile" with the highest range in the game, a global ult, and sustain for herself and other champions. She's not defenseless either as she has a skill shot with an AoE root and an AoE camouflage that also grants movement speed.

Please don't pretend like Senna is a helpless little lamb bot lane. She's not, and that's why people are playing her.

1shotALLdeadGR2/10/2020, 12:39:21 PM2 votes

I totally agree with you especially with the Vlad part. If a Yasuo lanes against a Vladimir, Vlad can EASILY take out Yasuo's passive shield and some of his health while healing himself for like...250-300 at level 4-5. Another champion you didn't mention is Trundle... I don't know if there is something that is not broken. Has a slow + a little knock up and as if that's not enough he casts W for extra movement speed...just to make sure you won't get away. You just don't have a chance to get away. Also this champ can outheal an Olaf with W, Wit's end and Blade of ruined king... With just a single button.

There are so many champions that deal so much extra damage by just clicking on you...and that is the most unbalanced aspect of the game in my opinion. After them comes the insane damage from other champs.

Exodus2471/26/2020, 2:05:07 AM2 votes

Sett is a tank assassin? If only there was a term for that......OH WAIT THERE IS ITS CALLED A FUCKING JUGGERNAUT Aatrox DrMundo Darius Garen Illaoi Mordekaiser Nasus NOT LIKE WE HAVE ANY CHAMPS LIKE THAT Volibear Yorick Sion Trundle Dont be so dramatic, while i agree with the aphelios and senna thing, sett is probably the most balanced champ release in 2 years, not counting actual reworks. The ONLY thing that could be changed is either the amount of grit he stores scaling with level, or the grit used in w dmg % every 100 ad lowered a bit. If you dont like it, cry more, theres WAY worse champs that arent being balanced and are being abused frequently that you could be complaining about instead of sett