Revert Evelynn

TheBestOfEurope·12/15/2019, 11:47:14 AM·6 votes·2,012 views

She is nowhere near as fun to play as the old evelynn was, I used to be an evelynn main and now she is just boring. You've reworked a lot of champions already, rengar leblanc etc. why don't you do this with evelynn as well?

8 Comments

Cind3rkick12/15/2019, 11:53:22 AM6 votes

New evelynn is far healthier than her old version.

Blossora12/15/2019, 8:08:31 PM2 votes

I miss first iteration of evelynn where her ultimate was a steroid that reset on kill. It was a lot more intense and fun running between champs hitting Q as fast as possible. Pre-rework also supported more builds, like ad or bruiser. My dream eve kit would be;

  • her stealth is singularly unique amongst the roster in that it doesn't have the proximity reveal range
  • her Q can be spammed like before
  • her W is an AS/MS steroid that resets on takedown
  • her empowered E stuns instead of more damage, add ad ratio
  • keep current ult, add ad ratio The E and R get ad ratios because of the physical use of her feeler things, whereas the Q is purely dark magic stuff and would stay pure ap. If the removal of the proximity reveal is too good, either make it really small, like ~350 range, or have there be some other kind of general indicator, similar to rengar warning but more subtle. I understand the charm is thematically more appropriate with her being runeterra's version of a succubus (which I'm personally all for, given my fetish for succubi) but mechanically it's dead-weight. Wanting the charm gives the enemy too much of a warning and can only realistically be used if you're in a superior flanking position (in which case, the enemy is screwed already). It's more often used for the slow anyways. Thus, I'd rather have a movespeed steroid that is more reliable and universal in application. All in all, I think a full revert flip wouldn't serve her as well as taking the best of both versions.

Anyways, general eve meta-history is like this:

  • people thought she sucked at release
  • someone on the forum who went by Soraka Bot revealed that she could be jungled
  • eve was suddenly super op in jungle because of her stealth + E stun
  • the stun was removed, which pretty much gutted eve
  • a bit later, her ult changed from the attack speed/move speed steroid reset to the aoe current hp % damage
  • eve was meta again due to an item called deathfire grasp (max hp % damage) which paired really well with her ult (moscow 5 used it in midlane at worlds)
  • deathfire grasp was removed
  • eve went back to obscurity for a long time Then she got her full kit rework that we know of now.

Up until her rework, and after the removal of her stun, the main thing that made it difficult for riot to balance her, at least in their words, was her stealth, in that she could be invis right next to the enemy (an old build was 6 sunfire capes when they stacked). Her stealth being the problem was actually identified early, as a gameplay design rioter was talking about it in s2, as he could foresee the design problems between stealth/wards/fog of war/minimap information, and what an evelynn and an enemy team were capable of within the context of those things.

However, as you can probably tell, her rework came YEARS later, despite so many people constantly protesting that eve was purposefully left in an underpowered state (as quoted by riot).

Ashe mage AD12/15/2019, 1:47:00 PM1 votes

The old one was such a sweetheart to my lp ahah xD Gunblade rush all day every day, skip jgl item xD good shiz. But it's all gone now, as much as I hate it.

Troll Slaiyer12/15/2019, 7:26:32 PM1 votes

same with my old warwick item 3153 item 3091 item 1419 . he is so clunky and slow now alongside not doing 5 onhits with his ult ....i still build him the same way whenever i happen to play him and it fails me everytime

Sukishoo12/15/2019, 7:31:35 PM1 votes

Because champions like LB, rengar, kog, ect were just a gameplay update. Eveylnn, Galio, aatrox, ect are full visual and gameplay updates. They don't hold on to the models, animations, ect that built those champions. They'd have to go back and fully redo them as it's essentially another rework. Plus since then they have gotten quite a few skins that didn't exist on their old kits and models.

mirAcIe12/23/2019, 9:50:56 AM1 votes

True tbh. New Evelynn is only playable when overpowered. She is not even picked anymore and people still ban her out in 10% of the games. Just goes to show how cancerous and unfun the new iteration is. I find it funny how people can unironically think that** replacing a speed boost and hybrid scalings with hard CC, %-magic pen and max-% health damage on regular abilities on a PERMASTEALTHED champion** somehow made her "more healthy for the game".

You have to be a level 99 delusional Riot apologist to actively believe that even after you stopped for 5 seconds to process that information. Either that or you're a hormone-driven teenager who will be convinced that new Evelynn is the most perfect creaton in existence because your parents put a porn lock on your computer.