So Wukong isn't ready for 10.1

UltraInstinctApe·Jan 8, 2020·24 votes·11,786 views

So since may 2019, they have had time to :

-create Sylas, Yuumi, Senna, Qiyana, Aphelios, Sett -fully rework Pantheon, Kayle, Mordekaiser -update Diana, Garen, Shaco, Morgana, etc... -create TFT I guess that increasing a little bit Wukong while the developpers are working on his udpate is a trivial thing. But I think the worst thing is to know that he is not full reworked. More than an half-year to give him a shield when the community prefers the previous rework... WTF?

24 Comments

boricCentaur1Jan 8, 202015 votes

WOW more then half a year for a shield and magic damage on the e wow.

Yeah wtf is taking them so long. Like riot kept saying they didn't have enough people for new assets which in my opinion was fine since it did come when they would of been working on preseason BUT THAT WAS THE FIRST ONE you know the one where he actually had changes.

Like why scrap something after possible feedback from the community and making us wait so long FOR SOMTHING A LOT SMALLER.

Like I fucking swear if it comes out and it's basically a shield and magic damage on the they're trolling us.

There was no reason that small of changes couldn't have come sooner.

SukishooJan 8, 20203 votes

Wukong was a minor project worked on by Riot Lutzburg with a very tiny team in their spare time. So, yeah it's why it's kind of going to take awhile.

KazekibaJan 8, 20201 votes

how many people were updating Malphite and Garen?

ModAcademy KaynJan 8, 20204 votes

The malphite changes had a single person behind them, but he didn't get as drastic changes to actual functionality or abilities are Wukong is. Unsure about Garen's though.

DeathfallJan 8, 20203 votes

Be happy they aren’t canceling his gameplay update and ignoring him for 7 years like they have been doing with Karma. The biggest upset and insult is when they had the nerve to say that it sometimes happens when 5 new champions get released within 6 months and another Ryze rework. It doesn’t happen like that unless they choose to do it that way and ignore champions.

Be happy about the attention Wukong is getting since champions like Karma get nothing but excuses and back and forth buffs/nerfs.

UltraInstinctApeJan 8, 20202 votes

https://lol.gamepedia.com/Karma What are you talking about? Wukong appears 1 times or 2 in competitive btw.

QuáxJan 8, 20201 votes

Imagine using PRO PLAY to balance out your argument. I'm not invalidating your previous argument, as a person who used to main Wukong I haven't played him in almost a year because of how shit he is, he definitely needs a rework and this shield thing on his E is an absolute joke. But he has a point brining up Karma, as a person whose DAD mains Karma and has over 500k points on her, whenever we talk about her gameplay he always talks about why she should be reworked or how it should be done. They both need help.

8 Lamar JacksonJan 8, 20204 votes

Karma is in a much better spot than WU imo. Wu is almost unplayable and a troll pick lol.

WoodakoodashoodaJan 8, 20203 votes

Riot in Spring of 2019: Wukong rework planned for summer. Riot in Summer of 2019: Wukong rework postponed, but it should be ready as soon as we fix the animations. Riot inWinter of 2019: We decided to scrap the original rework and went in another direction with it, but it should be ready by the end of the year.

It is now January of 2020 with mere days away from the new season. Honestly, at this point, I'd rather they just admit they obviously cannot do the job they said they would, scrap the whole thing, and assign more dedicated team members to a full VGU rather than make us wait for an entirely lackluster mini work that has yet to be realized.

chipndip1Jan 9, 20202 votes

Simple answer: Karma mains will be upset no matter how a rework project turns out, so they just aren't going to do one.

ParoeJan 9, 20201 votes

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Simple answer: Karma mains will be upset no matter how a rework project turns out, so they just aren't going to do one.

Theyre just going to have to suck it up and keep her visual theme while relaunching her a succint mid lane mage.

chipndip1Jan 9, 20202 votes

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Theyre just going to have to suck it up and keep her visual theme while relaunching her a succint mid lane mage.

This is what I'm talking about.

Why should she be a mid lane mage? What if they "sucked it up and made her a succinct support" instead? What if, instead of either of these, she went top? Then EVERYONE'S mad because we know how top laners feel about non-melee champions in top lane.

They're actually better off not bothering.

ParoeJan 9, 20201 votes

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This is what I'm talking about.

Why should she be a mid lane mage? What if they "sucked it up and made her a succinct support" instead? What if, instead of either of these, she went top? Then EVERYONE'S mad because we know how top laners feel about non-melee champions in top lane.

They're actually better off not bothering.

Her visual theme lends itself much more to projectiles and damage, but your point stands. Riot is going to need to relaunch her with a succinct kit as either an APC or an enchanter support and just stick with it.

Going all in on her visuals will assuage some ruffled feathers though.

ThunderCraftJan 8, 20201 votes

you should enjoy yuumi + wukong while it last once they rework him its going to be utter trash.

Exodus247Jan 8, 20201 votes

Nah its the chinese national 'god moba character' when they rework him i guarentee hes going to be an unstopable abomination which the likes of weve never seen, and they wont nerf him in the slightest because 'greatest country' would be mad, and thats who they keep pandering to.

Solo Q MemesJan 8, 20201 votes

Hahaha it's funny in hindsight. It's really trolling, I cant make this up. Honestly, I would really like to trust that the right thing will be done for this champion, but at the same time I've kind of given up on Riot ever doing something like that for Wukong.

Let's hope I'm wrong.

5050BSJan 8, 20201 votes

And he is stupid strong too

UltraInstinctApeJan 8, 20201 votes

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And he is stupid strong too

You made my day.

SiG DxDJan 8, 20201 votes

more than 6 months for this iteration

ahahahaha

what a joke

they ignored him for half season+

HideSideJan 8, 20201 votes

Well, Wu isnt only champ in lol, nor he is the center of universe. Ye, riot should more focus on dealing up with older things before they start to add something but there are plenty of champions that are in need of rework and Riot continues reworking them how it comes in handy and also Wu inst in such need of rework as other champions, like these: fiddlesticks, janna, malphite, malzahar, nasus, skarner, singed, teemo, tryndamere, volibear + others that need diana sized rework or just an update on spells.

ParoeJan 8, 20201 votes

Imagine thinking riot is one team who does everything. the naivete. The reality of it is riot functions like many corporations; compartmentalized into small teams that make up departments who dont usually interact with people outside their team and rely on leadership/management to coordinate things beyond their immediate duties.

CHampion reworks =/= champion development =/= art =/= internal balance =/= live balance =/= pro curcuit staff =/= legal, etc, etc. People might get moved from time to time and individuals may ask each other for help or input - such as the sound team working with a designer to get the right sound they imagined - but largely each team does it own schtick. This is further split by the fact some reworks/changes are pet projects of certain rioters. Due to the scale of the wukong changes, id gurantee its someones pet project after the initial large scale rework was canned to due lack of popularity for the champion.

ShahamutJan 9, 20201 votes

also, the "previous rework" was not "preferred" by the whole of the community, or even wukong mains. It was split pretty heavily, and thus was scrapped.

Shields are more appreciable than raw stats, so they went with it. Wu Kong is still getting updated, and will have a better W, a better E and a MUCH better R.

Since its already in the works, why not just save your critiques til after you play it? Leave the crying to other mains who STILL havent seen their champ get some serious work:

Skarner For almost 5 years, no revert, changes, and no skins. Karma nuff said.

UltraInstinctApeJan 10, 20201 votes

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also, the "previous rework" was not "preferred" by the whole of the community, or even wukong mains. It was split pretty heavily, and thus was scrapped.

Shields are more appreciable than raw stats, so they went with it. Wu Kong is still getting updated, and will have a better W, a better E and a MUCH better R.

Since its already in the works, why not just save your critiques til after you play it? Leave the crying to other mains who STILL havent seen their champ get some serious work:

For almost 5 years, no revert, changes, and no skins. nuff said.

So imagine a champion who totally disappeared from op.gg during 2 week... During this season, at a certain patch (I can't remember) Wukong was no longer considered as a jungler, or a top laner or a mid laner. I played with certain people who banned him when I was pre-locking him because this champion is garbage. I had never, ever seen a Skarner or a Karma banned because they were pre locking. Karma is viable I don't know why you are complaining. Skarner appears often in competitive. But wukong is one of the weakest laner and jungler of league.

gileskdJan 9, 20201 votes

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So since may 2019, they have had time to :

-create Sylas, Yuumi, Senna, Qiyana, Aphelios, Sett -fully rework Pantheon, Kayle, Mordekaiser -update Diana, Garen, Shaco, Morgana, etc... -create TFT I guess that increasing a little bit Wukong while the developpers are working on his udpate is a trivial thing. But I think the worst thing is to know that he is not full reworked. More than an half-year to give him a shield when the community prefers the previous rework... WTF?

the same people working on wukong, were the ones patching twisted treeline confirmed!!!