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@Riot, Fix Talon's Cutthroat...

Taredom·7/21/2015, 4:39:57 AM·17 votes·1,370 views

I understand why you removed Talon's one second silence from his Cutthroat ability, what I don't get is why it was moved into a 99% slow for .25 seconds, essentially changing the ability from Cutthroat to Cutfoot. Why not change it like you did Kassadin's Null Sphere? Rather than silencing, allow it to interupt briefly. I'll admit, I haven't played Talon in quite some time, mained him all of S3, came back after his nerf in S4 just to find that he had been nerfed recently (didn't find out until I tried to Cutthroat a Kat Ulti.)

This would retain the feel of the move while not making him so insanely dominant against casters, my biggest problem with the lack of silence or interrupt is that I no longer have a way to stop things like Fiddle ults or Kat ults, instead I just have to take it.

Also could it ever be in the realm of possibility to make Cutthroat work like Jax and Kats jumps? I feel like it would add some nice decision making to Talon.

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HeadHonchkrow7/21/2015, 12:30:41 PM3 votes

You mean Foot-stab?

Calabok7/21/2015, 6:12:28 AM2 votes

Why WHY does everyone and their mother's uncle want to propose some overboard change to their main champion so it can steamroll every other champion in the lane without breaking a sweat?

cmon. just leave it.

The balance team knows what they're doing.

Simpumba7/21/2015, 5:14:59 AM2 votes

Talon is fine. he doesn't need any changes to him. He's op as it is and I can face roll hard enough with him.

Only Play Darius7/21/2015, 5:42:46 AM1 votes

Yea Talon's purpose in life was to hard counter Katarina both in-lane and in teamfights. Now that he has no way of interrupting death lotus, she actually shits on him in lane. It's humiliating.

67chrome7/21/2015, 6:56:54 AM1 votes

my biggest problem with the lack of silence or interrupt is that I no longer have a way to stop things like Fiddle ults or Kat ults, instead I just have to take it.

How many channeled skills besides those 2 can you name?

There probably aren't even 10 skills you can interrupt in the entire game, i really don't see why any more than 1 ability in the entire game should do something so niche.

Also - you can simply walk outside of the range of both those skills.

Also could it ever be in the realm of possibility to make Cutthroat work like Jax and Kats jumps? I feel like it would add some nice decision making to Talon.

That's...a massive buff regardless of how you look at it.

Also, more and more mobility is pretty much the opposite of decision making. Rather than planning ahead and making decisions, you mostly react without thinking. Whatever decisions you create by using an initiate or escape, you take away at least those many decisions by allowing a very easy undo button if mistakes are made. Especially considering Talon can turn invisible and move super-fast if he needs to GTFO already. 2 getaway skills is pretty excessive.

Garbageteammates7/21/2015, 10:15:51 AM1 votes

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RetroRage967/21/2015, 4:49:19 AM1 votes

You propose that it be available to use on allies?

Haunt7/21/2015, 7:07:59 PM1 votes

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Also could it ever be in the realm of possibility to make Cutthroat work like Jax and Kats jumps? I feel like it would add some nice decision making to Talon.

Any buff Talon gets will put him over the edge. I've mained Talon to Diamond 3, his damage is insane. He is already a great solo queue champion. The ONLY thing that I would ever change on Talon is that his rake should come back to him when he dies. Everyone else's can do it, his should too.

That buff you're recommending would be extremely unfair, and wouldn't even fit into the theme of the ability. It is named cutthroat, which doesn't seem very friendly in the first place.

Rustling Bush7/21/2015, 5:02:00 AM1 votes

that nerfed hardly touched what was truly annoying about talon, lv 6 + ignite almost always guarantees a kill unless your laner is playing especially cautious, overall hes just a really obnoxious kit with the mechanics that a chimp could master.

Calabok7/21/2015, 5:14:06 AM1 votes

his kit is already toxic. no need to make it more crazy