Sorry if this is already discussed, but about Sylas.

Shakyasu·1/8/2019, 11:30:32 PM·1 votes·1,315 views

How will his Ult steal thing in the trailer work with people's ults that are scaled with passives. Like darius ult or Swain ult. Darius ult required 5 of his passive stacks to do any good damage. And swain gets the healing from his soul things. So if he stole Darius ult would he have 5 stack damage instantly or just the base damage uselessness?

Edit: And what about transformation ults that do nothing but give new abilities? would he get all of their new abilities but 1 use?

13 Comments

Hethalean1/8/2019, 11:32:23 PM1 votes

Probably 0 stacks since giving him full stacks without any of the work that Darius has to do would be way tooo OP especially since it's turned into an AP scaling and you get WAY more AP than you do AD. So just the AP scaling instead of AD is probably a huge difference already.

Not sure about Swain

EDIT Some Quick math ignoring runes btw Max stacks full build the AD scaling on his ult is 381 (so 1.5x*248=570) for Darius ( item 3078 item 3053 item 3026 then tank and boots) So 600 + 571 for like 1171

Full Build (i'm guessing at builds here) for Sylas will be more akin to Swain as an AP bruiser full build AP is about 400

So 600 total damage true damage. Not a ton but 600 is no joke and Sylas has way more ability to use the ult than Darius does.

NOW< theory here with a more bursty full build probably 644 AP so a whooping 783! Again not the best, but not awful

BeatzBoyFTW1/8/2019, 11:45:31 PM1 votes

By right, copying Darius ult would only deal as much damage as 0 Bleeds stacks since you don't have the Hemorrhage passive.

As for Swain, the 2nd cast of his ult would also deal as much as 0 Soul stacks.

Not very sure about ults like Jayce or Nidalees. Probably one of those cases where you can't copy.

Shakyasu1/8/2019, 11:47:34 PM1 votes

We just need our hero Vandiril

GFREEMEN1/8/2019, 11:56:48 PM1 votes

So Sylas's Ult is based off the enemies Ult CD (for when you can steal it) at level 3 Ult his CD is 9s with 40% CDR

Stealing KogMaw ult gives you ONE shot but you can steal it again in about 15s

Stealing Darius Ult gives you the execute and resets if you get kills.

Have not seen Swains Ult but it would be great I thing with the healing because he has High AP values and a 700-900 shield on a 6s CD

Kai Guy1/9/2019, 12:17:52 AM1 votes

In the clip it looks like he uses changed ability's with Shyvana

Big Black Crook2/20/2019, 11:25:35 AM1 votes

Had 2 games last week as Darius vs Sylas in the toplane, one game, he gets no stacks on me as he steals my ult, the second game, i was under 30% hp i believe, he stole my ult, attacked me once and applied 5 stacks of MY passive, ulted me and just deleted me :_D. But i did manage to get him low enough for the turret to finish him....... Now when i play Darius i ban Sylas :D.........................................