I don't suppose there is anyway apart from a Nerf on tanks in some sort of way, this meta is so boring at the minute, that's all you see is gragas', sejaunis, gnar, cho, zaks, whilst all being really tank dishing out a shit tonne of damage...
3tyson4 voteswhen you find out how to beat tanks
ARichPeasant1 voteswhen you find out how to beat tanks
I would love you to enlighten me on how instead of being cocky.
SexyTaylorSwift4 votesTanks being viable =/= tank meta. Sorry, not sorry that you can't play your cheese Rivens and just roflstomp the entire enemy team.
Yosuke Apperu1 votesRiven still can do this though XD
SexyTaylorSwift1 votesIn my experience, Riven struggles hard against tanks lol.
Yosuke Apperu1 votesWith black cleaver and last whisper she still seems to do fine with her still overloaded kit XD You can't go in blindly anymore, but if someone knows how to play riven and not mash buttons.. they should do fine.
AMYS GRAVE3 votesWhen you learn to teamfight it wont bother you at all.
all you see is gragas', sejaunis, gnar, cho, zaks,
really? you dont see any adcs or assassins or bruisers or supports at all? All you see is tanks for the entire team comp and no one else?
in my last 5 games i've seen....
one of those champions once (Zac).
Meanwhile none of the champions you listed, not even one, are in the top 10 most popular champions. Gnar is the closest at 18th most popular champ but is only seen 11.67% of games with an overall win rate of 48.13%.
Sejuani has the highest winrate among the champs you are complaining about at 54% and has been hit with the nerf bat repeatedly. Aside from her none of the champs you claim are dominant are even in the top 15 winrate champs.
You are complaining about seeing the same champions over and over but the fact is they are not dominating the meta by either play rate or win rates.
ADCs dominate the meta and are 5 of the top 10 most played champions with only 2 tanks (thresh and leona who are supports no less) in the top 10.
This meta is the most diverse and balanced we have seen in a long time.
Nameless Voice2 votesThis. I really like the current meta, because I see a huge variety of champions, and can play a huge variety of champions.
Tank junglers are good, but they are much less unforgiving than having Lee Sin in every game. Not having those oppressive duellists which allows junglers who are weaker at duelling, such as assassins, to work again.
Yes, every team needs a tanky/initiator champion, but that's always been the case. You can still win without one - I have often - but it's harder, because a tanky-initiator is really strong in teamfights.
Diversity of classes is really good in the current meta. There's still the issue of certain champions who are straight-up too good (and overshadow others) or outright no fun to play against, but apart from those outliers the current meta is pretty good.
Z Statistic3 votesAnd Zed, Kha, and the other number of assassins that could and would kill you before you could react was better? I'd rather be able to be killed in 6 seconds than killed in literally 0.5 seconds.
IcyPepper2 votesWas three assassin team comps healthy?
Sorry, but tanks are like the two carry roles and the support role. You need one on a team, or you're going to have a difficult time. Unless you'd like Riot to nerf mages, assassins, and marksmen so it wouldn't be an adc, apc, and assassin meta at all.
Yosuke Apperu1 votes
.. oh and also this guy crits ridiculously hard
. ummm oh and yasuo his ult is just absolutely ridiculous due to the amount of armor pen he gets
Desiderium1 votes{champion:157}} his ult is just absolutely ridiculous due to the amount of armor pen he gets
Very common misconception.
Assuming a tank has 200 armor, they have somewhere around over 120 bonus armor.
That would give Yasuo 60 armor pen, thus leaving the tank at around 120-140 armor, which is still a LOT.
It's one of the weakest steroids in the game. Useful, but not very good at all.
SexyTaylorSwift1 votesI'm confused, if a tank has 200 armor, and Yasuo gets rid of 60 of it, how does that leave 120 and not 140?
Desiderium1 votesI said around 120. I'm using very loose numbers here, but my point still stands; Yasuo's ult steroid isn't as powerful as people may think it is. Half of bonus armor is a lot of hoops to jump through to be effective.
SexyTaylorSwift3 votesI don't know man, that is A LOT of armor reduction for free.
Yosuke Apperu1 votesThat's assuming he has no flat pen, that he doesn't have the 6% armor pen from devastating strikes in the offense mastery tree, and also that he doesn't have a last whisper. 9/10 times he's going to have both of those things making him incredibly powerful. Hell he does enough damage without his ulti XD but now rework that 200 armor equation. 120 bonus armor so reduces your total armor down to 140. I'm bad at math xD but it drops your armor below 100. Though something I'd like to see honestly is a very slight nerf to yasuo's ulti armor pen. It should only take into account armor from items, just to see how it works out. Honestly as a tank.. when I see a yasuo, I no longer feel like a tank XD
Desiderium1 votesWith how much Riot is doing to fix and address it? Probably never.