Aatrox 7.5 patch

DriftCzar·Mar 9, 2017·21 votes·1,814 views

Anyone else really dissatisfied with the Aatrox update with his passive? the window for the passive revive is too short and cool downs are too long.... Really annoyed with the change to Aatrox

24 Comments

Jar Jar binks lMar 9, 20175 votes

i tried him today. Holy shit he is worse then before XD. Riot hates him so much

FailogMar 9, 20172 votes

Yup

ShadowwalkerMar 9, 20172 votes

Very much dissatisfied its awful with the amount of counter play present.

Gamer LifeMar 9, 20171 votes

The rework on Aatrox hasnt been completely finished yet, as Riot have said they ran out of time to fit everything they wanted to do to him into the patch, so we all should see more changes to him over next few patches.

Ahegao BunnyMar 9, 20178 votes

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The rework on Aatrox hasnt been completely finished yet, as Riot have said they ran out of time to fit everything they wanted to do to him into the patch, so we all should see more changes to him over next few patches.

Omg so just leave him longer on the PBE wtf. It's not like they are going to run out of money when they don't release this rework this week. Could have let me atleast one weak before they kill my second most played hero lol.

Gamer LifeMar 9, 20171 votes

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Omg so just leave him longer on the PBE wtf. It's not like they are going to run out of money when they don't release this rework this week. Could have let me atleast one weak before they kill my second most played hero lol.

well if you think about they pro want to get him fishing before the mid season class up date. so maybe they want to try get in done so its not still there when they start it.

Also its a good thing as they can see how he work on live and make better changes from what the see on live servers

dimiondoMar 9, 20173 votes

It worked shit on the pbe and people told them that.

It worked shit on live and people expected that.

There is literally no excuse not to of left it on the pbe, they even stated they believed the changes were 'solid' even though everyone and their mothers in the aatrox community told them they were trash.

FailogMar 9, 20175 votes

This really makes me question how things are run at Riot. Somewhere in the leadership, there is some moron.

FailogMar 9, 20171 votes

How? Everyone who used to play Aatrox is not touching him now. They won't get good data.

Gamer LifeMar 9, 20171 votes

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How? Everyone who used to play Aatrox is not touching him now. They won't get good data.

as I have said they said the ran out of time to do everything, they ofc want to get it done before mid season class up date. who no what going though there mind

AirKingNeoMar 10, 20171 votes

Ran out of time? They released it day 1 and had 2 whole weeks and made 0 changes to it. They've pulled changes out for the next patch before. Why not do it this time?

Gamer LifeMar 10, 20171 votes

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Ran out of time? They released it day 1 and had 2 whole weeks and made 0 changes to it. They've pulled changes out for the next patch before. Why not do it this time?

yes that what they said, how am i mean to no why the ran out of time as i dont work for them, but that was what they said

Edil23Mar 9, 20171 votes

It is different for sure now and, like everything, he has pros and cons:

Pros: More damage with abilities now that his E scales with AD, more consistent healing with his W and no health penalty with Q and active W. Also more times you can revive, in theory, with the cooldown to his passive. He now has a bit more dueling potential thanks to the empowered passive, meaning that you deal more damage with more atk speed and even have a revive option as long as you have your passive filled and are engaging with the enemy.
Cons: Less consistent increase of attack speed now that you have to fill your passive to 100. The time it drains is also too short, 4 seconds is too little time (although I guess the reset on enemy aggro is a possitive here). Not to mention you need your passive up as often as possible if you wanna proc the revive. Probably the atk speed problem can be compensated with masteries and runes, but that leaves the early game dueling potential in the hands on how well you time the passive and later game on items.

I'm mastery 5 with him, and got a 14/2/9 on the first game I tried him after the rework, but then I didn't have much luck in the next game (I went against a Mastery 7 Poppy and got ganked 3 times early game, maybe that affected the outcome too haha).

I say let's give him another try and let people practice and get used to his new gameplay. Probably we have a new hidden OP to come with this new Aatrox.

dimiondoMar 9, 20171 votes

Lol there is no op in that piece of shit. The only time you win is when you get someone who doesn't counter you in any way shape or form. Soon as you do like that poppy you get rekt so bloody hard it isn't funny.

Edil23Mar 9, 20171 votes

I said "probably", not definitely. Also that statement sounds a lot like all champs that have counters, which are most of them.

Either that or you probably just don't play Aatrox well.

dimiondoMar 9, 20172 votes

Lol i'm mastery 7 played him for 3 seasons i know the champ. I also know that every one of his counters suddenly became 10x the pain they used to be due to his reduced healing, lack of revive and loss of attack speed.

You managed one good game as him, well done, it still doesn't mean that the champ is in any way good in his current state

SalronMar 9, 20173 votes

{quoted} now that his E scales with AD

His E always scaled with AD

FailogMar 9, 20172 votes

"Pros: More damage with abilities now that his E scales with AD"

Not really. 70% AD instead of 60%, but its physical damage and the enemy laner is likely to have armore. Furthermore, they are saying and suggesting to us that now you can build Aatrox tanky....great, so if you build him tanky where is all that AD coming from to do more damage on his W?

AirKingNeoMar 10, 20171 votes

Let me point out the problems:

More damage with abilities now that his E scales with AD

Actually his E deals less damage now that it deals physical damage and not magic.

more consistent healing with his W

His W heal is the same if not worse.

Also more times you can revive, in theory, with the cooldown to his passive.

Actually revives less regardless.

He now has a bit more dueling potential thanks to the empowered passive, meaning that you deal more damage with more atk speed and even have a revive option as long as you have your passive filled and are engaging with the enemy.

Actually his early rank passive used to 30% AS, now 20%. The base AD boost isn't much when more attack speed = more W procs.

FailogMar 9, 20171 votes

Yup, its awful and Riot failed.

raffleszMar 10, 20171 votes

You've gotta admit this is really Riot at its finest. They took one of the worst champions in the game and then made him even worse. Aatrox was unplayable before and they actively made him worse still. Thats just pure lulz.

And now they are hiding behind the 'oh guys its on purpose, its so we can buff him'. Which is hilarious in and of itself.

Next thing you know they buff jhin because 'compensation for dft nerf'

Toa InnodenceMar 10, 20171 votes

yeah. if you look at rework galio's q and r, you see aatrox's e and a potential ultimate q. riot messed up two champions at once.

LeonerdoMar 10, 20171 votes

Yeah, he's a bit weak. Personally, I think the biggest issue (in top lane) is that he can't get his passive up at all if he's being zoned from the minion wave, because it falls off completely after like 5 seconds out-of-combat. His W is pretty bad too if he can't reach the minions safely. At least he can use his W when the wave hits his turret, but you're not gonna get the passive unless you give up a bunch of health from his W to stack it up.

Maybe if the passive took longer to fall off, so he could keep it alive by using E on minions. Just my two cents.