What happened to the Wukong Rework?

KÍNGKØNG··60 votes·20,682 views

Hi guys,

can one of the Rioters give me some insights about Wukong´s current state? A lot of people out of my Community and myself included are asking about Wukong. So, i would be very greatful if someone could say something about Wukong.

thx already!

45 Comments

Chalze12 votes

You can basically guarantee now that the rework won't come until after Worlds for uhh, self explanatory reasons

ValiantKiller5 votes

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You can basically guarantee now that the rework won't come until after Worlds for uhh, self explanatory reasons

Or never cause artist busy with dumb game mode call TFT

DerMangoJoghurt11 votes

Riot has a minor rework ready in concept which was met with positive feedback, but it will be a while until it get's released. They need artist time to create it and those are currently busy with other stuff.

ValiantKiller6 votes

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Riot has a minor rework ready in concept which was met with positive feedback, but it will be a while until it get's released. They need artist time to create it and those are currently busy with other stuff.

Tft stuff*

RiotMeddler23 votes

Preseason stuff is the limiter on this one. Once some assets for that are finished we'll be able to get some folks back onto this and another smaller rework that's also currently on hold.

Shahamut2 votes

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Preseason stuff is the limiter on this one. Once some assets for that are finished we'll be able to get some folks back onto this and another smaller rework that's also currently on hold.

smaller rework? Whos that for?

Sukishoo5 votes

Probably don't want to say incase it doesn't go through. Since we haven't heard anything on anyone else lately.

RiotMeddler14 votes

Yep, that's the case.

Shahamut4 votes

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Yep, that's the case.

Still hoping its Skarner Skarner Skarner Skarner Skarner Skarner Skarner Skarner Skarner Skarner Skarner Skarner Skarner Skarner Skarner

Ricyin2 votes

u guys are pretty slow for such a big team and all the money u have

ZephyrDrake6 votes

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u guys are pretty slow for such a big team and all the money u have

Yes, like we all know everyone who works as a game dev also is an artist. Also artists are all well versed in every form of art. Money is irrelevant. You cannot just hire any random artist out there and expect them to do what you want flawlessly or that his art style would even be a good fit to whatever it is you are trying to make.

TyRamos2 votes

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Yes, like we all know everyone who works as a game dev also is an artist. Also artists are all well versed in every form of art. Money is irrelevant. You cannot just hire any random artist out there and expect them to do what you want flawlessly or that his art style would even be a good fit to whatever it is you are trying to make.

Yeah but Riot has been referencing a worker shortage since season 1. Back when they were an actual small indie company. You'd think 9 years later they'd be able to have a decent amount of artists where things aren't backed up for 6+ months.

Samuel Murphy4 votes

There will always be a "shortage" Because a game this big has a lot of moving parts. You cant work on everything at once. And just hiring more people doesnt help because hiring someone takes a lot of time and energy and the more people you have on a team the slower things happen.

When they were a small indie company they could imagine a champs kit hack it together in a few weeks make a short hype video and release it.

Now, they need to have tons and tons of meetings just to decide which faction in runeterra a new champ comes from.

Same thing with art. They have meetings and meetings to decide where they should allocate artist resources.

Yeah more people means more man hours are spent on the game but the effectiveness of each person is much lower in a company of 500 employees vs a company of 15 employees. This is why Riot always takes a conservative approach when hiring Designers and Developers.

(Working in a startup that was 11 employees when I started and at 200 employees now I definitely understand the struggle)

veigarbage can1 votes

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Yep, that's the case.

Would you be willing to talk about the other champion if it doesn't go through? I'd kill to know more.

Ahris1 votes

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Yep, that's the case.

Hey, will Ahri be seeing a rework anytime?

ProfDrDeath1 votes

That's good to hear.

Since you mentioned preseason stuff, is there anything you people at Riot can already share?

ValiantKiller2 votes

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Preseason stuff is the limiter on this one. Once some assets for that are finished we'll be able to get some folks back onto this and another smaller rework that's also currently on hold.

I mean it taking forever and he is in gutter status, even you said the rework was successful and many liked it so it was our only hope for last months and now we wait for how long which us unknown :/

Sharpest glasses2 votes

At least do something for the current (balance wise), its not fair to let him in this state.

KÍNGKØNG6 votes

first of all, thx for the respond. But, isnt it possible to just launch the rework on live servers and to add the visual updates later on?

Panthaero1 votes

I said this a month ago (when reworkong had sat for 2 months in pbe already). Wu got nerfed into the dirt long ago. Anyone interested in him would much rather have the ability to play him rn as opposed to waiting on new particles for months at a time.

ValiantKiller1 votes

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first of all, thx for the respond. But, isnt it possible to just launch the rework on live servers and to add the visual updates later on?

I mean even he looked decent on pbe and he was just what we wanted, but nah we got to leave him in this garbage status. I would rather see him in good status over good visual look

LordGeovanni1 votes

and last preseasons Fighter items rework (aka mass stat nerfs for underpowered effects) or that gonna get passed by again?

Ragnaveil1 votes

Correct, and im predicting he's getting either a visual touchup, or a new model (Like Ez). It only makes sense if the artist time requirement is taking this long.

2Charmnot2Charm6 votes

It's been said multiple times that they are happy with the changes they tested and are waiting for their artists to have the time to update his ability visuals.

They have more projects on higher priority than Wukong's mini rework.

Tailypo1 votes

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It's been said multiple times that they are happy with the changes they tested and are waiting for their artists to have the time to update his ability visuals.

They have more projects on higher priority than Wukong's mini rework.

Are they just updating the ability visuals, or are they reworking his models as well?

2Charmnot2Charm1 votes

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Are they just updating the ability visuals, or are they reworking his models as well?

Just updating his spells to match whatever they done to his kit. But since Wukong isn't on the VGU or VU list it's not high in priority.

We'll probably see it by pre-season.

Blue Moon Wolf2 votes

It should be just ability visuals, but there are some things that make it seem like there may be a few other things going on. one thing is that Meddler mentioned he needs audio people, visual artists and other art, as well as him saying he could have another line or two added in. It's highly unlikely they will touch his model at all, though it does seem like this update could end up being rather big for a kit update. idk, best to just assume normal kit update and just be surprised if it's more later.

DuskDaUmbreon4 votes

It was put on the backburner.

Also @mods 5 upvotes in 5 minutes? That's beyond suspicious.

Eedat2 votes

YouTuber

DuskDaUmbreon1 votes

That's still vote manipulation...

LordGeovanni2 votes

Nope thats just clout if it had anything to do with it

DuskDaUmbreon1 votes

Used to be that bringing your viewers over to vote was still counted as manipulation. :v

villePlatte3 votes

It's encouraging, at least, that Meddler responded and is open about this. I don't like to hear that Wukong is low priority, but THANK-YOU for the update(no update). Nobody can accuse the Meddler of ignoring us.

Minimac20002 votes

I'm pretty sure the reason is because while pretty much no one in NA likes him as he's just a moving duskblade/sheen proccer and nothing else, the China server apparently loves the one-dimensionality of his kit. So they are holing off on a rework to not upset any of them. That was it the last time i heard about this topic anyway

Diävolo2 votes

I think Wukong needs a Visual update that's all. He's extremely fun to play

Jennifer4202 votes

wasnt there also a mini teemo rework on pbe for months???

NightlyRogue2 votes

What happened to the Teemo Rework?

MysticElephant1 votes

Sadly I am not authorized to upvote. Even though I can on every other thread.

Trist mid opop1 votes

Personally i didnt like the W changed. It attacks automatically but cant move. That makes it röly hard to disguise as the clone. U move an inch cuz ur target moved = they know its u

Kalienor1 votes

You could still enable automatic attacks and use the Hold Position command.

Trist mid opop1 votes

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You could still enable automatic attacks and use the Hold Position command.

Didnt know it works like that. Smart

WhoFedThisJáx1 votes

I miss wukong

LordGeovanni1 votes

I bet its right next to the fighter class rework that was supposedly supposed to be done last preseason.

Radiant Wukong1 votes

[sg-soraka]

McDiickies1 votes

I swore off playing league until wukong rework got released, but its been nearly a year now, I hopped on one game and lost, carrying as wukong just doesn't cut it because he is an ass champion that has only one form of helping your team, using R.

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