Kindred Hunter's Vigor

Midnight XxNoZxX·Sep 18, 2016·1 votes·1,009 views

In a update Kindred got her Hunter's Vigor removed, it was very useful for jg. But now that they removed it its been a lot harder to play Kindred with out the Hunter's Vigor. Give me your opinions on the Kindred nerf.

9 Comments

AstôlfoSep 18, 20161 votes

Bring it back, but either reduce the heal, make stacking take longer, or change it to against champions-only. The sustain Kindred had when they were strong was ridiculous.

TormentulaSep 18, 20161 votes

I don't see a difference honestly.

On one hand the heal made her always healthy during the clear, On the other hand the new effect with the slow to jg camps makes them much much better at kiting, makes rift scuttle easier to kill, and makes you take reduced damage due to the attack speed slow. It removed mindless healing but it didn't make jungling harder at all, you actually have to buy a pot now.

The only thing bad about the change is lane kindred has no reason to exist anymore. It was a fun little thing to do once in awhile because the heal kept them in lane longer than average champions, but that doesn't work anymore. Generally champions are designed to work in more than one role.. and kindred I don't believe does.

Hell I use a role of thumb that any jungler can work in top lane, kindred is the only one I can think of that doesn't work besides maybe fiddle.

BattleBruteOct 6, 20161 votes

i want it because it was good for dueling early game now its hard to duel anyone at all on her before level 6. because it did bonus damage as well as heal like botrk does

TormentulaOct 6, 20161 votes

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i want it because it was good for dueling early game now its hard to duel anyone at all on her before level 6. because it did bonus damage as well as heal like botrk does

Kindred is a marksmen not a duelist.

If a marksmen Vayne can 1v1 Vayne an assassin, diver, tank, Vayne Vayne and literally have no early game weaknesses then it shouldn't be a marksmen.

If you want to duel somebody you gotta kite them (orb walk) and kindred can easily do that in her current state like most marksmen. She should be running and attacking, not dueling rengars, kha'zix, elise, and literally every other early-mid game burst champion pre-6 and just get stronger after that. A marksmen should suck early game and be a hyper carry late game and kindred with that passive had no weak points in a game unless she was 0/12 and even then they make combacks off of one really good grouped ultimate. (and if you;re 0/12 that s just the kindred players fault, not kindred.)

What you want is their damage to be high enough to turret duel enemies like twitch or kog'maw and that simply isn't healthy, but atleast those two don't deal %HP damage + build %HP items + have invurns and mobility like kindred.

Vayne Vayne Vayne Vayne Vayne Vayne Vayne Vayne Vayne Vayne Vayne Vayne Vayne Vayne Vayne Vayne Vayne Vayne Vayne Vayne Vayne Vayne

Right now, kindred is really strong with the item 1419 item 3085 item 3022 build. See, didn't take buffs to put kindred back in the meta, just experiments.

BattleBruteOct 6, 20161 votes

yea i guess that's a fair point she is in a decent spot rn too she isn't incredibly useless or anything but i still feel like she needs maybe a little buff to her whatever it may be i have to play her a bit more and practice my kiting still too bc i cant seem to do the attack move and click thing like everyone else does so well ive been just clicking and unclicking again after attacks

BattleBruteOct 6, 20161 votes

she still feels underwhelmingly strong compared to how strong some marksman are when they start a game off like jinx and caitlyn. maybe they should give her an attack speed steroid on her w like u move and stack it and when consumed gives x seconds based on level of x amount of attack speed because until you get enough move speed ppl frequently walk away from ur e without getting it stacked 3 times.

TormentulaOct 6, 20161 votes

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yea i guess that's a fair point she is in a decent spot rn too she isn't incredibly useless or anything but i still feel like she needs maybe a little buff to her whatever it may be i have to play her a bit more and practice my kiting still too bc i cant seem to do the attack move and click thing like everyone else does so well ive been just clicking and unclicking again after attacks

Attack move takes practice, try just using it on jungle camps and minions until you're comfortable using it in a teamfight and chase. Watch videos to see what it does and how to use it.

Personally I use it as player attack move click on my mouse button to do it easier, but I heard that's harder than pressing A click for some reason.

LaçezSep 19, 20161 votes

I quite like the new W passive the only thing is the old passive worked off champions as well so not only did it hurt her jungle clears (which Imo, are better now), it hurt her duelling potential, especially given that the q during the W's active was nerfed up to 4 seconds from 2 at lvl 1.

BattleBruteOct 6, 20161 votes

i think her q in w should be 2.5 no matter what the rank i would rather have that because at least i can still do my qwq q to chase but at 4 seconds i leave circle before i can q the second time or have it 3 seconds down to 2.5 then 2 i mean i feel in a lot of situations tho when i use my ult and i try to kite around ppl in it before it goes off a lot of the time after the effect ends they are up my butt and just murk me