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Riot Destroyed Junglers

Krapty··4 votes·1,059 views

It's a SCANDAL what RIOT did to JUNGLERS:

*Took away Feral Flare/Elder Lizard (those were the main build for jg) *Raised the price of hunter's machete ( ===> you can no more buy 4 potions at start but only 2!!!) *Reduced gold income/experience in jg (*NOT VERIFIED but i feel like monsters are harder to kill now)

So RIOT yes your new JG items are really cute all based on smite, i agree it is great to finally be able to use smite late game (on a champion for ex.) BUT here's 3 problems:

  1. Some people play JG without smite
  2. Those new items do not compensate for the old ones (ex. Feral Flare that was stacking up the whole game and started stacks at purchase of machete)
  3. THEY DO NOT HAVE WARDS!!!!!!!! A JUNGLER NEEDS MAP AWARENESS, WE NEED TO PROTECT OUR JUNGLE/INVADE!!!!

It is now nearly IMPOSSIBLE to jungle!!! You said in the patch update that you want to force us to go into lanes more often, but here's a problem: PEOPLE DON'T WANT JUNGLERS IN THEIR LANES!!!!! They always expect a gank when the are in trouble, but they RAGE when you kill ONE SINGLE minion in their lane or even stand there and share XP!!!! Here's another problem, some teams dont LEASH! So before it as ok, you would somehow manage to jungle with that little handicap, but now, without a hard leash its GG!!!

RIOT have you tried to play a Shacko or a YI in your new jungle? POINTLESS!!!! You keep getting executed or you almost die so you have to B ====> you are behind!!!! Before the average jungler would reach lvl6 around the same time as the TOP laner, a good jungler would reach it around the same time as the MID laner... NOW i'm having a hard time keeping up with the TOP laner!

It became USELESS to start with a jungling item, might as well start building (ex. Statik Shiv on YI)

So YES I AM RAGING AND COMPLAINING BUT I WILL KEEP DOING IT UNTIL YOU BALANCE JUNGLERS BACK AND BRING BACK FERAL FLARE!!!!!! OR I WILL SIMPLY STOP JUNGLING

So please all of you people that love jungling but feel "NERFED", support me in this protest!!!! <3

9 Comments

BeatzBoyFTW3 votes

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Boss Nasty2 votes

I actually completely agree.

Krapty2 votes

THANK YOU!!!

amaranto19902 votes

Can't agree more.

Taelyn the Lost2 votes

I feel pretty much the same way. Most of my favorite jungles now fall really behind. The problem is that the new item has locked stats. Damage dealers get the same bonus damage from it as tanks, and also the same HP regen, when before they got % damage and damage on AA, and healing based on %damage-done. I think if they want to fix this, they have to somehow bring that back. Squishy characters can't sustain enough anymore, and the slower tanky characters can't kill things fast enough so the jungle out damages their sustain too. I have mained jungle since S2, and since this update, I don't feel like jungling anymore.

n0ob2 votes

You are retarded.

  1. There are no people who play jungle without smite.

  2. The new items, some of them anyways, are better than the old ones.

  3. I miss not having a free ward as well, but there are other ways we can provide vision now.

Hephe2 votes

If you miss Feral Flare so much you can get the "DEVOURER" enchantment. According to the Pre-Season 2015 microsite you'll get the followings stats:

  • +50% attack speed
  • +40 magic damage on hit

PASSIVE - DEVOURING: Killing large monsters permanently increases the magic damage on hit by 1. Champion kills and assists permanently increase the magic damage on hit by 2.

This works perfectly on champions like Yi, why not Udyr and perhaps Nocturne (depending on your play style). In all seriousness, the changes are interesting but just because it's totally different from Season 4 it doesn't mean that they are crap. Give it a chance, play several champs, experiment with the jungle paths and items.

FYI, I had a Yi in a game yesterday who absolutely demolished the entire enemy team.

Cenobite Azaziel2 votes
  1. jungle without smite = GG. You can't contest buffs, dragon or baron. Not ment to be competitive.
  2. Devour deals more damage to champions than a feral flare stacked. You don't need to farm all day ( early game), you can farm mid and late game. It's better for some champs, but breaks Yi legs. (well at least he can get a slow for the ganks, no need to rush cutlass anymore). The downside is that damage VS monster isn't amplified.
  3. You already have trikets. You now have 2 FREE wards every 3 minutes ( scuttle crab) that covers one of your jungle entrance.

New jungle is horrible, but not because of those motives you gave. The fun fact is that top laners/suports are getting jungle items too. The smite provided by the items are really good. (true damage and damage reduction every minute?)

Dragon is really buggy vs panteon/fiora/jax. Monster deal too much damage, smiting buffs ( red or blue) are not worth. "Wow, more life! Neat. Wow, more... mana? - decent if you are giving your blue, but 90% of the time is meaningless).

Malix Farwin1 votes

I both agree and disagree, I agree and it has become much harder and a lot less enjoyable to jungle unless you are one of the few who actually like to play the champs that excel in the new jungle(which is not many to be honest). Diversity got thrown out of the window and if you want to actually be useful to your team you better play top tier junglers.

As for the parts i disagree on, i do believe that changing the jungle items up does create more options for junglers although the stats themselves(primarily hunter's machete) could use a rework. Furthermore, it technically does not make jungling impossible but much more harder then it should considering the jungler has so much to do and think about already.

All in All i do not think the jungle is at all what riot said it would be.

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