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Can we talk about Fiora's Ult?

Scaleheart·12/6/2015, 1:36:02 PM·3 votes·1,108 views

It's freaking OP. Unless you get a big lead on her in lane before 6, and sometimes even then, it's impossible to stay in lane with her, and late game she gets just disgusting. The main problem is the % max HP true damage combined with the massive team fight heal.

I was just playing Darius in top lane against her, did okay in lane but awful after 6. She was especially oppressive as the game went on...at around level 16 she walked up to me under tower, dealt 3500 true damage in 1.5 seconds, finished me off, killed my jungler also under tower, and walked out. She literally starts in on me when my Q is winding up and kills me a half-second after it finishes. On about a 30 second cooldown.

We won the game because we got a pick on her and then a good team fight at the end, but the fact that no champion in the game even has a prayer of 1v1ing her late game is a real issue. She's an impossible to itemize against godlike duelist with insane team fighting potential and great mobility/utility. It's too much IMO, and you can see that not just in Bronze but also LCS.

Even though KOO Tigers lost to SKT for example, Smeb was a terror with her and pretty much destroyed Marin in a couple games.

How can her ult be nerfed to make her relevant but not as OP as she currently is?

24 Comments

Nile Strom12/6/2015, 2:13:51 PM2 votes

Not sure but can Jax block her ult with counter strike?

ZLbSwAR23I12/6/2015, 2:14:39 PM1 votes

No, we cannot talk about her ult.

Good bye :)

Transgressor12/6/2015, 2:05:12 PM1 votes

There's your problem, you played Darius into Fiora. You literally just came to rant after having a bad lane against Fiora, despite winning anyways. https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=OphidianHope+

dealt 3500 true damage in 1.5 seconds

Also, that's impossible.

Case closed.

darapier1712/6/2015, 2:32:07 PM1 votes

fiora's entire point is to be a godly duelist*[zombie-brand-mindblown]* also a fed jax can 1v1 her late

darapier1712/6/2015, 3:41:46 PM1 votes

to fix her ulti, she could challenge them, making her deal extra damage to the target champion, while taking less damage from other sources, however her target deals extra damage to her

Akenero12/7/2015, 10:48:46 AM1 votes

I dont mind her ult personally

But her passive is bullshit She gains, let's see here 3% max hp on a (unrealistically but still possible) .5 second cooldown that scales with 4.5% ad at level 18

A massive heal of 25-110 hp, which gurantees the trade won in most scenarios

And gives her 20-50% move speed for 1.75 seconds

Now lets think about items such as bork, hydra, frozen mallet, iceborn gauntlet, and even youmuu's

Then she still has 4 abilities!

Im not whining, i know how to play around her(swapping vitals) and i know cc destroys her(so does yorick) but that is realistically way too powerful for something you have a (50 if red side, 75 on blue side) chance of having on you.

My proposal? Give it more damage(5% max hp) Put the on-unit cooldown to ~10 seconds Math: Live-3%+(.045 bonus ad) true damage, 110 hp heal, realistically has a 1 second colldown vs immobile targets Proposed: 5% +(.05 total ad), 110 heal, 10 second cd Live's got, in this example: 30% +.45 bonus ad max hp true damage, 1100 heal amount

Shit riot, that's insanity

AyRe CoNteMpT12/6/2015, 2:18:11 PM1 votes

at level 16, why do you solo defend against her under your tower? lol. soloQ.