Poll for ADCs regarding assisted farming

Yel·3/21/2016, 5:25:01 AM·1 votes·480 views

Alright, so I primarily play support. Theres one thing I do that some ADCs love, but drives others up the wall: I help them farm. I'll selectively attack the enemy minions that our minions are ignoring, leaving enough health that the ADC can successfully one-shot them and get last hit. I've gotten to the point that by 10 min my CS will be around 6 or 7, including the times when my ADC was MIA. Around 70% of them say nothing, 20% thank me, but that last 10% gets quite annoyed. They say stuff like:

"Stop f*****g with my farm" "Don't auto the minions" (which I don't, I do one hit, move to another, and return if it's still getting ignored) "Stop stealing my CS" (7 in 10 mins? Really?)

I guess my point is when you ADCs have a support that does this, do you love it, hate it, or not mind?

4 Comments

Faie3/21/2016, 5:37:12 AM4 votes

When you do this under tower to help me, sure, go for it. I'll say thanks.

But stay away from the creeps at other times, unless the other lane just left and we need to push. There's no need to help me farm normally. All you're doing is pushing the wave, and making it easier for them to freeze. I can farm by myself.

Again, the exceptions are:

Under tower where I don't have enough AD to get everything and
when we're pushing the wave to deny them minions.

It's a nice gesture, but it's honestly not needed.

Although, this is coming from a diamond ADC, so the dynamics of bot lane could be a little shakier elsewhere.

Yordle Xayah3/21/2016, 5:51:58 AM3 votes

I sincerely don't recommend this. Like at all.

Unless you want to push the lane, you are ruining a possible lane control that maybe the ADC wants to setup. If the matchup is bad, a really good idea is to freeze the wave and farm under the tower. What you are doing can send the lane pushing the way of the enemy, and if they have a stronger lane, you are basically making it impossible for your ADC to even come close to the minions. If the enemy has a Morgana, a Lux, a Blitz, etc. they are gonna zone the ADC super hard.

Do not attack the minions

Unless you want to lose control of the wave, which you NEVER want. This is not about "Don't steal my farm", but rather doing a very reckless move that can ruin a lane and maybe even a game.

And here's where it gets better... if you are in a lane bully situation, you may say "Oh, so I can do it here, right?" If your ADC is trying to freeze the lane so the other ADC can't farm, if you do this, you are actively helping the enemy farm, since the wave will eventually push to their tower and then reset, allowing the enemy to farm in a more comfortable situation.

Don't do this, just don't do it. Unless say... you see the enemy jungler top and you know you can take the tower, then yes, but only when there's an objective to go for after the intended push, not just for the sake of _"helping farm". It doesn't help. It's an ADC's job to do the wave control.

This is about lane control, not stealing farm. just don't do it.

Edit: The only time where you can and should help, is farming under the tower. Caster minions take one of your AAs, one from the tower, and one from your ADC to be last hit. But that's literally it. Melee minions take only 2 tower shots and one AA to die, so leave those alone.

disregardable3/21/2016, 5:40:36 AM1 votes

The only times I don't mind it are when they're pushing the minion wave to our tower (not when it's AT our tower, BEFORE it hits our tower), I don't mind the support counter-pushing, and likewise if I'm shoving the wave, I don't mind the support helping (as long as you don't take it).

All other times I'm not okay with it. I've actually left supports alone in lane 1v2 because they wouldn't stop fucking with my cs after I asked them to stop.