Generic "Cho'gath OP pls nerf" thread incoming...

scribbles782··1 votes·582 views

Why does Cho'Gath exist? Or at least in his current state? He his, say it with me, BROOOOOOOOOOKEN!

It is an insanely unhealthy mechanic to gain tankiness and get more damage in return. Just because Cho'Gath has 20k health, does NOT mean that as a direct result he should have over 1.5k true damage.

His kit is perfectly fine, and I quite like his changes (primarily his E), makes a tiiiiiiiiiiiiny bit more skill go into his kit, even though (IMO) it was a bit of a buff in general.

I actually have never had a real problem with Cho'gath until one patch. One glorious patch. 7.4. To be honest, I knew this patch was going to be a massive failiure from the get-go. Here are the notes-

Feast REMOVED: Loses half stacks on death. NEW EFFECT: Can now stack infinitely (from 6), but can only gain up to 5 stacks from killing non-epic monsters or minions. REMOVED: Healing if at 6 stacks. REMOVED: Champion kill granting 2 stacks. REMOVED: Minions and monsters kill refunding 50% cooldown and mana cost. NEW EFFECT: Tooltip now lists how many minions, pets, monsters, dragons, epic monsters and champions you have eaten. AP ratio reduced to 50% AP from 70% AP. NEW EFFECT: Damage now scales with 10% bonus health. Health per stack reduced to 80 / 110 / 140 from 100 / 140 / 180. NEW EFFECT: Reaches maximum size at 10 stacks. Maximum bonus attack range increased to 75 from 50.

Here is my thought process-

"Wait, no longer losing stacks on death? Okay, this makes him a bit safer/easier to play, but I'll allow it. Wait... Uncapped stacks? T-That has to be a mistake... Um, moving on. Oh okay, he doesn't heal from it anymore. that's fine, also champions granting one stack. Also the reset not exiting. moving on HOLY SHIT WHAT???? 10% bonus health scaling??? RITO IS HIGH. So you're telling me that by stacking and getting tankier, he does MORE TRUE DAMAGE? That's balanced."

That was basically my thought process. Yes, there were compensatory nerfs, BUT NOT ENOUGH. You've all seen clips of Cho'Gath quite literally deleting a squishy from a fight, and that's not okay.

And DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED on his item synergy!

  • Luckily they removed Stoneplate synergy. (Took long enough) (Still broken on him anyway tho)
  • Righteous Glory- He runs into the backline and one shots a squishy. Also gives him tankiness.
  • Warmog's armor- A LOT of extra health and unnecessary sustain.
  • Locket- Weirdly enough, I don't see this built on Cho'gath often. He can make shields larger than an adc's health bar.
  • Spirit Visage- A ton of health AND gives him more healing from his passive. Cool.

I could go on for HOURS about this... but I don't want it to be too long.

I think the best way to balance Cho'Gath is revert the 7.4 changes. (And maybe remove the mana from his passive, shit's annoying as hell)

Let me know what you think.

2 Comments

Beas7ie3 votes

Sry but if a squishy stands still to let that huge monster lumber up and eat him then that squishy deserved to get eaten.

Most teams will be able to keep Cho away from the ADC. When I play him, I usually try and get tanky and then just be the bodyguard and almost literally stand on top of my ADC. You wanna hit my Draven with your skillshots? Good luck doing that when my fatass and my giant hitbox is right in front him.

Oh I see you there sneaky assassin. Go ahead, try and jump on my ADC. All my skills are off CD and my ults all ready. Jump on in. See what happens.

Meanwhile while all this is happening, my ADC should still be putting out TONS OF DAMAGE.

Shame they apparently removed stoneplate synnergy. I was using stoneplate cheese to carry myself out of Bronze.

scribbles7821 votes

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Sry but if a squishy stands still to let that huge monster lumber up and eat him then that squishy deserved to get eaten.

Most teams will be able to keep Cho away from the ADC. When I play him, I usually try and get tanky and then just be the bodyguard and almost literally stand on top of my ADC. You wanna hit my Draven with your skillshots? Good luck doing that when my fatass and my giant hitbox is right in front him.

Oh I see you there sneaky assassin. Go ahead, try and jump on my ADC. All my skills are off CD and my ults all ready. Jump on in. See what happens.

Meanwhile while all this is happening, my ADC should still be putting out TONS OF DAMAGE.

Shame they apparently removed stoneplate synnergy. I was using stoneplate cheese to carry myself out of Bronze.

I mean, when I'm playing let's say Taliyah, and a Cho'Gath is running towards me with item 3800 and summoner 4. At that point there is really nothing my team can do, especially with him knocking me up with Q and slowing me with E.

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