Mini rework - Fiora

FA Dragon·Jul 13, 2019·3 votes·1,852 views

Hi, I'm a Fiora otp on EUW and NA and I have been thinking about Fiora's kit for a bit. Just wanted to share my thoughts and maybe get some feedback. Thank you in advance.

Passive - Duelist Dance ~Have the scaling changed to total ad instead of bonus ad - thoughts: her items are pretty damn expensive ravhydra 3500g, triforce 3777g and ddance 3500g. This would also help her in the "tank meta" and a bit in the mid game since her win rate pre 30 minutes is pretty bad. And if you're not slightly ahead you're pretty much useless.

Q - Lunge ~+50 range - thoughts: I think since her rework her dash has been a bit lackluster cuz it got half the range of her old q. This is so you can catch people or hit minions a bit better instead missing it by a pixel and having to wait a long time to get it back. ~Mana refund on kill - thoughts: Fiora's biggest weakness is her mana pool, you will find yourself running out of mana really quick in almost any situation. So this is just a small change that could help her in the laning phase.

W - Riposte ~This should just remain as a single target counter that's all.

E - Bladework ~Have it work the same as Jax w on turrets - thoughts: Currently Fiora doesnt really fit into any comps, all she does is duel people.. She is more of a counter pick to Aatrox and Irelia. She is bad at team fighting and her splitpush is also terrible, the only way for her splitpush to be good is with mountain drakes or demolish. And the bonus 50% atkspd she gets would also be nice to have when splitpushing(I could see it being cut down to 35% on turrets)

R - Grand Challenge ~Give her a dmg reduction(10% > 15% > 20%) when she ults - thoughs: I got this idea from the old passive 'Spear of Shojin'(gave dmg reduction when there were 3 or more people near you) used to have, I tried it out when it was on the pbe and it makes her more viable. Of course you can't give her the reset mechanic cuz that's the reason it didnt make it to live servers. At the moment Fiora just gets blown up in team fights and I feel like she should have a chance to last a bit longer. Ofcourse I wouldnt mind if her movement speed from her ult gets cut down a bit to balance it better for the dmg reduction passive.

The idea for her ultimate passive could be scrapped because of my thoughts on her passive(Duelist Dance) being changed to total ad.

Let me know what you think, are my thoughts good or straight up dumb?? Let me know please.

12 Comments

vyodaJul 13, 20194 votes

Well thought-out insight.

However, would the Q buff make her a bit too OP against immobile squishies like Ashe ?

FA DragonJul 13, 20192 votes

Irelia 600 range point and click cough Fiora 400 with handicap hitbox cough Jax EZ stun cough Yasuo dashes for days cough

(Just to mention a few, not flaming btw)

vyodaJul 14, 20191 votes

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Irelia 600 range point and click cough Fiora 400 with handicap hitbox cough Jax EZ stun cough Yasuo dashes for days cough

(Just mention a few, not flaming btw)

Fair enough. I think I just have a soft spot for Irelia since I main her

Polaris IJul 13, 20192 votes

We’re not in a tank meta she already does well into tanks with percent max health true damage. She doesn’t need these buffs besides the e working on turrets.

FA DragonJul 13, 20193 votes

I see a bunch of Tahm, Naut, Sej, Amumu from time to time and Rammus. Top Renekton and Aatrox are pretty popular. Or am I missing something?

Polaris IJul 13, 20192 votes

Tahm is getting gutted, tanks aren’t tanky but they have damage and cc. I don’t see amumus at all and Danny’s is only tanky with his w on but has high damage. Renekton and aatrox aren’t tanks.

And Fiora has percent max health true damage which is busted and a toxic mechanic

Unusual midlanerJul 13, 20192 votes

It’s so busted in fact that she currently has a 48% win rate. You realize she’s literally a split push bot when she can’t ult someone right? She has to build full glass cannon to have any impact. The %max health true damage generally does around the same damage as every other juggernaut and duelist in the game, only being more impactful against tanks. This is exactly what I’m talking about, everyone is so afraid of the %max health true damage as if we aren’t in a glass cannon meta anyway and you can’t counter her by hugging a wall.

FA DragonJul 13, 20192 votes

That's the shit I hate the most, when people hug walls like a pss. And people who are so afraid of Fiora all they do is hug their turret and actually give up early cs and wait for a gank. Fiora needs buffs, not to her dueling but to her splitpush and Idk why riot doesnt realize that.

Unusual midlanerJul 13, 20191 votes

Riot does, but they know people are all fucking afraid of %max health true damage like it isn’t abundant in almost every champion now due to runes and powercreep except they do even more damage.

FA DragonJul 13, 20192 votes

Toxic machanic? You must be Hashinshin's clone

Unusual midlanerJul 13, 20192 votes

This is exactly what she needs and very close to my thoughts on Fiora and why she’s so hard to use compared to other people in her class. People saying Fiora doesn’t need love just don’t want to see her meta, but there’s already more frustrating shit in the game right now and she can stomp out some really annoying picks in the right hands.

FA DragonJul 13, 20192 votes

Conqueror isnt that great on her anymore, I feel like I lose more games with Conqueror that's why now I only play Grasp unless I'm against Aatrox or Nasus. Yes she has a 50% win rate in plat+ but that's because she is a counter pick to Aatrox and Irelia. Those 2 are super popular now.