Trist's New Bomb vs. Turrets and Heimer's Grenade

PiggySaysWhat·1/30/2015, 7:49:38 PM·2 votes·740 views

Soooo.....I remember when they took out Heimer's grenade from being able to target turrets because it allowed him to too easily siege towers and was OP and blah blah blah. Since Trist can do that now (along with just generally being able to push towers like crazy when she's in the same range Heimer would need to be to do the same thing) can Heimer players have that back?

Pretty please!

5 Comments

UdoIkOSc4u1/30/2015, 8:03:05 PM1 votes

oh god no

KnivingDude1/30/2015, 8:20:01 PM1 votes

Hiemer has a more overloaded kit that Trist right? why give him more?

Espy Psyche1/30/2015, 9:26:03 PM1 votes

Because Heimer already has a kit that makes him incredibly powerful at pushing lanes and killing turrets.

Heimer's turrets scale off the same stat as his other abilities (AP). They can also be buffed by Banner of Command's aura. Zz'rot Portal also produces voidlings that are buffed by Banner of Command. And Banner of Command provides Heimer AP, which in turn makes his turrets hit harder.

So basically, Heimer just needs Banner and Zz'rot and he can push ridiculously.

This is why Riot won't do it. I disagree with them and think this is a good thing, but that's how they think. I would like a League of Legends that is more about objectives and less about kills.

Cindikle1/30/2015, 10:48:12 PM1 votes

I think it's fine he can't do it.

But I also think we need more abilities that can take down turrets. Would really help some champions like Cass who just can't get a roll. Making her actually into a champion would take the ADC roll would mix a lot of things up. As it's the only team position defined by a roll(Marksman). All other lanes can see a mix of other rolls. Any time the ADC roll is played by another roll they get nerfed. (When people were using mages, they got their base AS hit. Making AS items less effective. Thresh got the same thing.)

All they'd have to do is make it so towers with her W under them make her auto attacks do bonus magic damage. This bonus will scale off AP and levels like Azir's W. So you can't just rank it first and gain overpowered tower killing power.

Many champions could fill this roll too. Veiger is one. Only problem would be his stun would be an amazing gank tool. This could be changed into a 50/60/70/80/90% slow + silence for the same duration. Or a polymoprh. It will still be a very effective CC. But this makes it much weaker without ranks. A 90% slow + silence is really close to a stun as it is. Then they could add "Units and structures within his E take bonus magic damage from basic attacks, this does not work on targets effected by it's slow.".