Make Zed's Ult Dot have a timer like Zillian's bomb

Ryoshu·Dec 30, 2014·53 votes·2,793 views

This would help telegraph when the ult damage will proct. It makes sense for it to have a clear timer other than players having to mentally time the detonation themselves.

17 Comments

TeemoJenkinsDec 30, 20144 votes

Fizz's ult has a timer?

Spiderbro lolgDec 30, 20141 votes

I'm most certain it does.

Drunk RummateDec 30, 20143 votes

@Riot Nome

Clarity in design!!

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/features/lol-design-values-depth-clarity

Im AndruDec 30, 20143 votes

This would make it easier for bad zeds like me to actually kill someone

juaumzitusDec 30, 20142 votes

I don't play Zed, but i would hate this.

The reason why Zilean has a timer is because there is no animation or sound indicating when it's going to blow, same for Face of the Mountain, the time is big, and it would be too easy to counter (Zilean's bombs already is). Imagine if Poppy's ult had a timer, by the time it shows 1 second, Poppy would be surrounded like a suicide Shaco that just used Q as gap closer.

Zhonya, Zed's ult, Lissandra's ult, all those skills have a sound or effect that shows when it's expiring, so the player can counter it properly.

CindikleDec 30, 20141 votes

Zillian's bomb and Fizz's ult deal AoE damage. I think that's why they get the timer.

If they made this change more than just Zed's ult would need changed adding more clutter.

Father CthulhuDec 30, 20141 votes

Or at least an audio queue would be nice.

FLY SlotmachinerDec 30, 20141 votes

Zed ult has that Passive right? I think that is more than enough to let you know when it will pop. If it does not have it ( I dont remember, cause when I play Zed I go all in :P) then might as well implement.

Slushi SimcambiDec 30, 20141 votes

BUFF summoner 13

YoellaDec 30, 20141 votes

Well, if Riot does this for Zed they'd better do it for Karthus ulti too.

DiostukosDec 30, 20141 votes

Well, it has a little buff icon that ends right when the ult procs; shouldn't that be enough to help you time your Zhonyas?

That's how I time them, anyways.

AFK PushDec 31, 20141 votes

Much like Heimer's ult turret, it shouldn't go off after he is dead.

Nausicäa Dec 31, 20141 votes

its not a 'dot' its delayed damage.

StephenizgodDec 31, 20141 votes

Hmm i think this would be too easy to counter. Ive seen people use shields, zhonya's, other various untargetable abilities at the wrong times and die for it. This i think is fair, im pretty sure Zed's ult takes 3 seconds to go off right? Add in the .75 second delay so just wait like 2 seconds after he actually applies the ult and then Zhonya's? I also think there is a debuff icon thingy that you can look at right?

If you want to talk about clarity then look at Garen's ult, it does 30% (its actually like 28.57% or something like that) of the targets missing health + plus its base damage (you also need to factor in MR but you need to do that for all the other abilities too). So you need to do some quick math with random amounts of numbers all in the middle of fighting them. Its not hard math, its just annoying when they survive with like 20 hp because my quicky math was off (im not a math major so i make mistakes often). And if people are complaining about a 3.75 second delay then Garen's Demathian Justice must make your brain cry.

Much DankDec 31, 20141 votes

First, just because it bugs me... *Zilean... and second, I feel somethings are just learned from expierence like Zhonyas timing and GA timing. I play some Zed (mainly Riven) but some zed here and there and i have always had some sort of mental timer in my head after about 20-30 games. At about 100 it should be like clockwork, literally.