Is Swain Too Weak?

DrakeTheSinger··1 votes·1,701 views

I'm not the best Swain player, or the best League player by any means, but I can't help but feel that Swain is a tad bit under powered. Most of it stems from his ultimate I feel, which looks like it would be something that is already hard to balance. I feel like trading off explosion damage from Demon Flare into an increased health drain would benefit him more. On the Swain Mains subreddit people have brought this up quite a bit. One idea I remember seeing is removing his Demon Flare entirely, instead giving Demonic Ascension increased drain over time, and a lower CDR on other abilities so that he doesn't just pose at you until he can cast Demon Flare. Another I remember seeing was removing his shards entirely and then giving him permanent health and/or MR/Armor based on his CC passive. Again, I'm asking this moreso as a question aimed at people with more Swain experience than me, as I really don't know how to gauge characters too much themselves in terms of power.

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AIQ1 votes

I would say that Swain is not one of the biggest balance concerns. What makes him weak IMO is the Q cost or hist max mana pool. Even with ROA, he still can drain his mana quickly, but Tear over kills the mana too much in exchange of the the power he needs.

His ult does well so long as you have Zhonyas, a lot of people struggle as the don't know when to pop his ult VS when he needs to keep it up. It boils down to a matter of greed. "I know I can take these 2 out, but if I drain some more I can live or take another with me." Playing more Swain will only teach you when you should or should not pop your ult.

Should his mana cost be reduced by like 10 and/or his mana pool up by about 50-100. He'd play much smoother. His damage and sustain is fine. Remember that getting more power shifted to the Drain makes GW more powerful against Swain. So I'd prefer to have a bigger boom than be more reliant on the enemy not building GW.

You should try him as a bot laner with a hard CC support like lux/morgana. When they land a long range Q you can change that to a shorter range and usually burst the target extremely low. Food for thought.

Dragon Master1 votes

RoA is a joke item and he dosen't have the range to deal with most mages and the update destroyed his anti assassin capabilities. Now I get wrecked by Zed and Akali when before I beat then constantly.

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