Vision is the most powerful Tool in league. A support should be happy to build sightstone:

LyteHatesSoloQ·Nov 26, 2016·5 votes·612 views

You want to have huge impact on the Game? You want to snowball and stall out games? Seriously removing sightstone etc would just nerf the impact of a support with great macro game. Why do you guys hate to build sightstone? It is one of the most costeffecient items in this game.
The ward limitation few seasons ago was bad. It ner fed the impact of supports while they actually released some good support items. So why not have unlimited wards for those who want to ward a lot on the minimal? Vision control is just a team thing now while it was a huge game gamechanging thing controlled by support players. Support had a super great impact. Why did riot removed it while it actually didnt change the popularity of the role?

That's why I didnt play league the last few months. Riot has to be careful to not piss of mainsupports

20 Comments

BreakuNov 26, 20166 votes

If it was that good, everyone would buy one.

OglafNov 26, 20164 votes

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If it was that good, everyone would buy one.

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Supports don't but Sighstone because it is a good item. We do it because if we don't, nobody will.

PennsNov 26, 20162 votes

Yeah because its an item for supports xd

OglafNov 26, 20162 votes

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Yeah because its an item for supports xd

No it is not. The only items that is inherently for Supports are item 3301 , item 3302 and item 3303 (much like item 1041 / item 1039 for junglers.)

As I said, only reason why Supports are forced to pick up Sighstone is because nobody else wants to. Anyone can pick one up and use it.

PennsNov 26, 20162 votes

Anyone can pick up other support items and use them as well lol. Sightstone is not gold efficient, supports dont need gold and stats from items as much as other champs, and it even builds into support items now so it clearly is one.

The only other role that could really build one are junglers, but they have their own "Sightstone" now. Honestly support mains remind me of feminists more and more lol. Everything is apparently "unfair" while they actually are like one of the best roles in the game now with Windspeakers + stuff like Locket or Redemption on utility supports.

Like, bro u dont need the money from minions or wards or whatever, you have base stats, utility, gold generating items and support items are cheap anyway. So please dont complain when carries ""steal"" wards that you sweeped or tell you to not take minions (talking to every support player, not just you).

OglafNov 26, 20161 votes

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Anyone can pick up other support items and use them as well lol.

Using that logic one could justify using jungle items in the lane. [zombie-brand-facepalm]

PennsNov 26, 20162 votes

You need smite for jungle items, you dont need anything for support items.. What exactly is your point? I mean, Sightstone is a good item for supports. Its cheap and permanently gives you vision in your lane/jungle.

OglafNov 26, 20161 votes

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You need smite for jungle items, you dont need anything for support items.. What exactly is your point? I mean, Sightstone is a good item for supports. Its cheap and permanently gives you vision in your lane/jungle.

No, it is a terrible item. Probably worst-in-slot for any completed item when we're talking item 2045 .

Warding is great and all, but the item itself is a waste of an inventory slot. Someone in another thread suggested it should ramp up in stats much like item 3027 which I found to be a great idea. To mitigate the feeling of it being a cancerous tumour just occupying space in your inventory.

PennsNov 26, 20162 votes

Well theres a difference between gold- and slot efficiency. But like I said, there are support items that build out of Sightstone now so if youre that scared of having 6 item as support.. why not just get one of them?

OglafNov 26, 20161 votes

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Well theres a difference between gold- and slot efficiency. But like I said, there are support items that build out of Sightstone now so if youre that scared of having 6 item as support.. why not just get one of them?

When I play with a Support that uses item 3301 or item 3303 it really is a no-brainer as neither item 3069 nor item 3092 are that great in my opinion.

But when you use item 3302 you may not want to combine them, because item 3401 is pretty damn great.

Plus, keeping it as item 2045 gives you one extra Ward per recall, which is nothing to scoff at in the end.

BreakuNov 26, 20161 votes

I think the solution is to add a limit like "one (possibly two) per team" which would give room to make it stronger without having an entire team with sightstone.

AptestNov 26, 20161 votes

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

NoPaxtNov 26, 20161 votes

Riot could fix this by increasing the duration of the wards and letting sight stone regenerate charges. Make the SS more worth the investment.

As of right now, it's not cost efficient for support tanks, 150 health for 800 gold.... sorry but no, not worth it.

Utility mages and healers stray from the back line to ward, and the get deleted, because nobody else warded and there's no vision for you to do it safely...

LyteHatesSoloQNov 26, 20161 votes

Ward sightstone isnt about combatstats at all... its super costeffecient for the amount of vision you get

NoPaxtNov 26, 20161 votes

Then let it replace trinket, or let the jungler and mid lane buy it, they roam more...

AdormasNov 26, 20161 votes

Like somebody said above, we build it because no one else takes initiative to get map vision. I find it unfair that I HAVE to buy sightstone, which pretty much just gives health in terms of stats (and reduced activatable cd's...which is meh).

A better option would be to have sightstone as an upgrade option. Upgrade any of your non-activatable item to get sightstones active. Hell this may even encourage non-supports to place wards.

Very Hard EngageNov 26, 20161 votes

bjergsen playing orianna. misclicks and buys sightstone because its right next to needlessly large rod

twitch chat - WHY WHY LUL WHY

Bjerg - "because sightstone OP... like super OP"

proceeds to win the game as if it was normal to have a sightstone.

PoskeNov 26, 20161 votes

Or you can just use trinket... And have nearly as much influence

Mecha MaIphiteNov 26, 20161 votes

It's actually because supports are the only role who can afford to waste gold on it and still be useful.

OglafNov 26, 20161 votes

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It's actually because supports are the only role who can afford to waste gold on it and still be useful.

If Supports didn't have to waste gold on them, they could be even more effective when it comes to the raw power of their Champ by buying better items earlier.

So that's only a half-truth. Supports do suffer because of it, but we grin and bear with it.