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Cassiopeia rework

KT PräY··11 votes·1,493 views

Every Cassiopeia players will agree to me that this update just drags Cassiopeia to hell or even something worst, if that kind of thing exists.

Riot should make a change, or just cancel the Cassiopeia rework and leave her the way she was!!!!

I AM REALLY SERIOUS. I only play cassiopeia. My username is even cassiopia.

From this update I honestly believe that riot people doesn't really play their game.

They don't know nothing about the how Cassiopeia works and plays.

First of all, her W is used as her one and only (beside her ult) surviving skill.

Some people might think its is OP because Riot increase the range of W by 5 times. But let me tell you why its not

So, now Cassiopeia can only shoot her W in a certain range, not right in front of her.

This really crirtical because Cassiopeia can't do anything against the champion that just sticks to her.

For many Cass player I believe that they use W for kiting her E

But from my recent game experience, you cant really hit more than one E after slowing the enemy.

Also, every single thing blocks W. Not only wall but even leftover of tower. Like this is so stupid, when thinking about how W was used for vision before update. Make the matter worse when they are blocked they form a one single circle like the W before the update.

Secondly, about the boots, before update I always upgraded the boots for 2nd or 3rd core item, because mobility is extremely important for cass

It is important at hitting E and kitting, also vulnerable champion like Cass need a fast mobility.

Now that I can't buy boots, I don't even know what to say about his stupid decision anymore. LIKE SERIOUSLY ?! RIOT

Third. WE CASS PLAYERS DID NOT EVEN ASK FOR LOWERING E COOLDOWN!!!! But Riot just destroyed the current Cassiopeia play but making the cool down for E 1 second even when the enemy is poision. And it not even 1 second, it feels more like 1.5 second, for real.

"Well we gave you extra damage and bloodthrist!"

PLZZZZ.....ARE YOU SERIOUS? Because of this (AND NO BOOTS!!!) Cass can only hit E like 2 or 3 times at the MAXIMUM, excluding the teamfight situation.

PLZZZZZ PLZZZZZ RIOT

BRING MY CASSIOPEIA BACK

26 Comments

Roadkill74666 votes

I love how people get on the boards and make sweeping assumptions that "everyone" will agree with me. No we don't all agree. I love the new cass. She deals good damage, I don't have to spend 1100 on boot items I really don't want, and I can roam to bot and trade easily with ad carries now. Learn the new champ before coming to boards and assuming everyone agrees with your flame. Good day.

Romans 84 votes

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I love how people get on the boards and make sweeping assumptions that "everyone" will agree with me. No we don't all agree. I love the new cass. She deals good damage, I don't have to spend 1100 on boot items I really don't want, and I can roam to bot and trade easily with ad carries now. Learn the new champ before coming to boards and assuming everyone agrees with your flame. Good day.

Did you even play her kit before? If so, how extensively?

I'm a Cassy main and this update is BS. Do you really understand her strengths and weaknesses? Well, I hope you keep playing her, because I don't think she is playable anymore.

SnakeInaTree2 votes

I'm haveing a hard time with cass her ranges are so hard to deal with everyone just keeps jumping on me and it's so annoying idk what to do >~<

Bobloser35551 votes

I think after they fixed her W she feels pretty good, it's not quite the same "all hell breaks lose" gameplay she used to be but still fun in a slightly different way, while retaining most of her feel.

KT PräY2 votes

Okay her damage did actually go up statistically. However, the amount of E that Cass can hit went extremely low. Thinking that Cass is not really a burst damage dealer, this is a really huge and critical change. Also, your comments about the boots just tells me you don't know much about Cass. OK, Cass doesn't have to buy boots, that is cool. However you are missing the fact that until 18, you can NEVER get to your maximum speed. As a Cassiopeia only player, I believe mobility is extremely important for Cass, but this updates kills that.

Ahegao Bunny1 votes

Where does she deal more dmg? Her Q deals a little bit more but E has less ap scale and Cassio lost some ap because she lost her passive.

LuckyFriday131 votes

Couldn't agree more. I didn't main Cass but I liked to play her. When I would get her in ARAM it would rock, not she is almost pointless especially in ARAM. She is slow, can't get close enough to hit anybody with your q unless she is in range to take a lot of damage. Nothing seems to work together well anymore. Used to be you could hit a w and a q then your e a bunch while they were slowed. That's not possible now. And her ap is so lowwwwww now. I couldn't believe how much they have crippled her. Maybe if I spend like a week just playing her trying to get used to these changes maybe it would be playable but it certainly doesn't feel like it.

The Queen Viper1 votes

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... can't get close enough to hit anybody with your q unless she is in range to take a lot of damage. Nothing seems to work together well anymore. Used to be you could hit a w and a q then your e a bunch while they were slowed. That's not possible now.

It is still possible, you are just not doing it properly then... Her Q range is the same, Her E range is the same, Her W range got increased by 50. She still functions the same.

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And her ap is so lowwwwww now.

No, it's not unless you are building low AP items to begin with.

You can still hit 1k AP if you want to.

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I couldn't believe how much they have crippled her.

They didn't. She's just fine.

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Maybe if I spend like a week just playing her trying to get used to these changes maybe it would be playable ...

Well no shіt? Do you seriously think that you can just pick up a mechanically intense champ and do well with it from the get-go?

Bro plz. Stop whining and go practice.

Bobloser35551 votes

You are talking about 6.8 Cass, try her again her ranges were reverted to the old one.

Ahegao Bunny1 votes

She is the same Hero except every spell and passive got nerfed hard. Even the old W was much better against mobile heroes than this stupid grounded shit we have now.

Bobloser35551 votes

She is now stronger than the old Cass that's for sure.

Jenex6 votes

I agree with a lot of the points. She's just not the Cass a lot of us love any more. But this is Riot trying to give some of the loudest players what they asked for. I disagree with them removing the skill of poison+E reset timing. I was already miffed that W's vision before this was wrecked to a tinyyyy radius, but I dealt with it cause as a cass player you get used to champions trying to kill you via ambush. I cannot stand the new passive, but it just seems like Riot's gone so deep this mage update in the thematic department that whoever voiced "but what about the importance of sorc upgrades?' was never heard. She feels clunky right now, but that's potentially because I'm so used to the rhythm of the reset that the .9 CD E is grinding against my gears. Even so, I'm sad that Riot gave in to the screams for her poisons to do more damage and suck power out of her E. Bring on your downvotes.

Ahegao Bunny1 votes

Yeah, but at the same time they nerfed Q range so you have to go in a dangerous position just for a dot. If they'd just adjust it a little bit so you could deal dmg with both instead everything with E it would be ok. But well lets just rework a well balanced hero with a unique gameplay and destroy her completly...

jusho12 votes

she is best now as a apc bot lane. no adc can really trade with her and live

Bobloser35551 votes

I know but people are not open to it, when I used to play Cass adc some supports refused to support me or didn't know how to support Cassio. But she is really strong counter vs adc, probably good idea to have an adc in top or juggle then.

The Queen Viper2 votes

... that typo in your name triggers me so hard. -.-

KT PräY3 votes

Riot does not allow champion name as username :(

Ahegao Bunny2 votes

Riot should just revert the changes to 6.68 for Cassio. They have clearly failed to make a playable and balanced rework. Everything feels clunky, her spells don't work as good as her old kit, she is underwhelmingly underpowered.

Why would you try to keep it now and fix it until she is somewhat in the position she is used to be. Although I don't really think it's possible to make the new Cassio as good work as the last one. Don't know why she had to be reworked in first place.

Kaioko2 votes

I play Cass and I don't think she's in too bad of a spot right now - she could use a little more love but overall it's not bad. It took me a few tries to relearn her after the update though.

Previously basically getting screwed when switching targets in team fights was extremely annoying at least that's not the case anymore. Also Rylai's has definitely become a mandatory item on her.

MrLlamaWaffle1 votes

Riot already announced they are gonna hot fix a few champs early next week and she was mentioned, chill

Serpents Embrace1 votes

https://dd.reddit.com/r/CassiopeiaMains/comments/4i2jgn/riotrepertoirs_post_about_the_possible_upcoming/

It doesn't really address anything, though. Q range isn't being buffed, W range lock isn't being address and the E changes are still forcing her to stack CDR to get back in to any reliable rhythm of E casts.

MrLlamaWaffle1 votes

Pretty sure the hotfix is just to make her more playable. Don't think they have time to address bigger issues. Expect changes to her and many more in the next major patch. In the mean time, be glad Riot even cares to hotfix her :P

Serpents Embrace3 votes

What they're suggesting doesn't make her more playable. It just alleviates about HALF of the clunky CDR reliance her E currently has.

Unless they revert the large majority of these changes in 6.10 she's just going to be mired.

Also, yeah, I'm real glad that they "care" enough to hotfix her, just like I should be thankful they "cared" enough to shit all over her in the first place.

Ahegao Bunny1 votes

Yeah lets destroy a well balanced hero completely and afterwards try to fix her so she gets somewhat playable.

Blue Kaozi1 votes

I think she just needs the minimum range on her w to be removed. Past that she'll be fine. If you're having trouble with the inability to buy boots rushing rylais works pretty well. I'd sometimes rush that with the last rework since last hitting with e refunds mana anyway, reducing the need for a mana item past tear. Also the ability to have 6 items and boot tier movespeed is really powerful late game. But man, i really want the w backup for when ANY assassin jumps on your face. She kinda needs it

stealthfox941 votes

yall complain too much.

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