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Tristana Jump

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As a Blitzcrank /Morgana player, I hate this champTristana . It is 6.8 now and I still find hitting q on Tristana are a joke. Why should she be allowed to get pulled and never get punished for it? Gangplank has an orange, may as well give an orange to Tristana too. I thought this ability would have been dealt with by the time of the rework for her, but it is still here, and I still am unclear on how it interacts in game. As the patches have been coming out, it has been made clear by Riot that clarity is an issue that they want to improve moving forward. This is one of the most confusing abilities to use, and play against in the game right now. I usually play most nights with friends, and I have seen this over and over and over, yet idk if anyone is actually trying to make this ability more responsive. As of now, I feel like I am getting ping spikes when I play Blitzcrank , and I get full visual queues that the ability will go off as it hits, however I see the jump animation of Tristana Rocket Jump go off like crowd control is bugged. If Tristana is supposed to be able to get pulled and not get any crowd control effects for it, can I at least get the liberty on Khazix ? No, because that does not make any sense clarity wise, and it should be the same way for Tristana jump. Make her untargetable like Zed Death Marking, or MasterYi Alpha Striking, but to not list this effect is muddy for players and very frustrating.

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Vhan87652 votes

As a Trist player, do you know how easy it is to take a Blitz grab or Morg stun to the face in the middle of your W? If you're having trouble snagging Trists you just need to time your skill shots better. Her W is a beautiful disengage but it isn't ridiculous like Fizz or other champs.

Immunize1 votes

Fair point coming from the other side of the effect. However, does it not seem like a clunky interaction to you? I own Tristana and have played her, and I know of this problem you speak of. It is unclear for both members of the interaction, thus, it can be frustrating as the adc, and as the support player. Either way, I truly believe this can be fixed with added clarity/unit interaction, but for now, it still seems muddy on what will actually happen. Also, the skill shots are 100% hitting, the grab/hit sound goes off the and the arm comes back as she is jumping, leaving Blitzcrank with a really long arm, so it does still look and interact like old Tristana (buggy) and is still very annoying. Other champs with jumping abilities do not have this problem, making it even more frustrating to see how a jump should and could look like. Just play Khazix into a Blitzcrank , the interaction is clear if I was hit or pulled, I know instantly and feel the effects immediately. So why can't Tristana interact the same way? This is why I am annoyed.

Vhan87651 votes

Ahh, well if focusing on the functionality of the skill, yes, I can agree perhaps it can be rather buggy at times but I mostly believe that is due to timing. Unlike Kha or Ez, Trist takes a little bit of time to blast off. So say you Blitz grab at the same time Trist jumps; your ability goes through but the animation is only what actually gets hit, the champion has already triggered her movement to the target location. Or so it seems from my perspective at least.

If anything, just try to go for your grabs after she has jumped. Since Trist doesn't go invulnerable, she can easily be pulled or killed in the middle of the air lol. It looks ridiculous sometimes. xD

El Condor Pasa2 votes

Ezreal can also jump out of things just like Trist.

Vhan87651 votes

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Ezreal can also jump out of things just like Trist.

Someone didn't read things well enough. ;33

Immunize1 votes

Ezreal at least blinks and does not have any real travel time, so his interactions do not consistently plague me with confusion.

El Condor Pasa1 votes

Allow me to reword my post to better convey what I was intending. Ezreal takes a little bit of time to blast off just like Trist and as a consequence can jump out of things.

Vhan87651 votes

Ahh, perhaps his skill is just cleaner than Trist's then. I've only played Ez a hand full of times during free weeks but when facing him, his jump seems more instant, where as I can see a Trist charging Rocket Jump.

Immunize2 votes

I think you described the interaction perfectly. I am not saying Tristana is broken by any means, I just think that Riot can still improve her Rocket Jump by a lot. The ability is unclear. To me, this is a major issue for trying to improve at the game. If I have to watch my replays every time to understand the unit collision for one ability, it is not worth my time, as I am no pro and have better things to do. With all of the changes I keep seeing, I know that this can be made cleaner. Remember when Thresh first came out? His lantern was revolutionary in terms of unit interaction. Meanwhile it 6.8 and 3 years later and I still see Tristana get hit with Morgana Q's and proceed to jump and land snared due to the delay of the jump. I don't think it is asking too much to improve the response time of her jump or add the description that Rocket Jump has a channel time and cannot be interrupted by snares or displacements. That would be clarity. Not 100 foot Blitzcrank arms. xD

Vhan87651 votes

Yeah then, I agree with you completely, Riot could put some time into fixing this skill's interaction with stuff. Apologies that I hadn't realized beforehand that was the main point of your thread here lol.

It's been a long day for me. item 3070

Immunize1 votes

All good, I am glad to have someone understand me. I honestly love new Tristana, her visuals look awesome and I love her voice. I know Riot wanted to rework to make her more distinct among adcs, her Rocket Jump is definitely one of a kind. I am not sure if it is being looked into, as idk if you remember the infamous Shen bug of season 5 that had him disabled on and off for a few months, but I tonight I figured I would actually like to do something about it. It is still no AP Tristana, so I am very grateful to Riot for solving the nightmare of a lane to play mid. xD

Thanks for all the feedback btw. I do enjoy talking about league almost add much as I like playing it. Add me up on the Rift the if you like and we can rock Trist/Blitz lane and laugh at the jump xD

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