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Malzahar really needs a nerf

ScoobyDoo77··2 votes·1,044 views

My god that champion needs some kind of nerf, either remove that silence that is just cancer in the midlane or make that even worst cancer ultimate at least a skillshot because god that ultimate vs mages in mid is just stupid you cant QSS cuz nothing builds into that for mages...

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xl Kirito lx2 votes

So, you refuse to counterbuild an MR item against a mage. Moving on.

ScoobyDoo773 votes

mr dont save u from that ult

xl Kirito lx3 votes

QSS removes the suppression, the silence, the DoT from his E, and his ignite. That item removes all possibility of him killing you, save for a major misplay on your part.

ZLbSwAR23I2 votes

No, he doesn't.

You're bronze 3. Nothing wrong with that, but your (lack of) understanding of the game means that your opinion on a champion being overpowered is almost certainly because you don't know how to play against them.

ScoobyDoo773 votes

there is no counterplay against that ultimate unless u got cleanse or qss dude i was winning lane by alot but then he just comes and ults you and youre dead how is that balanced? explain.. and if u got any other way around his ultimate as a mage please say..

Ruin Lance1 votes

build mr (mainly for laning phase) and then have someone else use cc/displacement to stop his ultimate. there's your counterplay.

Zane Zephyr2 votes

Cleanse doesn't stop suppression, just saying.

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

Malzahar is akin to a duelist; you aren't supposed to fight him 1v1.

Honestly, it's like complaining that Master Yi or Vayne can destroy you when they catch you out alone. That is exactly what they are designed to do.

Malzahar's ultimate requires that he channel it. If you have anybody nearby who can either CC him or attack him during its duration, he's much more vulnerable.

Also, Cleanse does not and has never removed Suppressions. I'm not sure where you got the impression that it does, but it is wrong.

ZLbSwAR23I1 votes

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there is no counterplay against that ultimate unless u got cleanse or qss dude i was winning lane by alot but then he just comes and ults you and youre dead how is that balanced? explain.. and if u got any other way around his ultimate as a mage please say..

Google "how to lane against Malzahar".

It's that simple.

ff4sk2 votes

"yes, let's nerf one of the only viable mages in the game in a tank/assassin meta. It's not my fault that I can't dodge a delayed q that goes in a straight line. And how dare he have a cc ult to protect him from being dived as he is an immobile champion with no escapes. Fuck malzahar!"

ScoobyDoo773 votes

just saying hes too strong atm

Ralanr1 votes

I think his ultimate is getting changed in his rework.

ScoobyDoo771 votes

would be kinda nice hes too strong at least if it was a skillshot i could be dodged or make a qss for mages..

Zane Zephyr1 votes

No, it's not. They said his E and R are pretty much guaranteed to stay.

Jahsuo Onfroy1 votes

1300g and he literally does nothing to the adc, and then all he can do is press q, which is easy to avoid as well

SpankMyPhatAshe1 votes

They are reworking him. They plan on changing up is ulti abit but not sure too much about his basics tho

Zane Zephyr1 votes

His E and ulti are pretty much 99.9% sure to stay.

Here's some stuff we're happy with about Malzahar and are unlikely to change: Functions well as a reliable anti-mobility/anti-assassin via Nether Grasp (R). Has really fun/unique farming patterns via Malefic Visions (E).

SpankMyPhatAshe1 votes

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His E and ulti are pretty much 99.9% sure to stay.

Here's some stuff we're happy with about Malzahar and are unlikely to change: Functions well as a reliable anti-mobility/anti-assassin via Nether Grasp (R). Has really fun/unique farming patterns via Malefic Visions (E).

All I remember they didn't like how his R worked and one other skill... just can't remember which one..

Zane Zephyr1 votes

They literally just said they like how his R works. They did say that they didn't like how his W>E>R was able to kill most people without enough time for reaction.

And his W is probably the spell you're talking about. They said they want to try working on that to something different possibly.

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