Junglers WILL NOT LEAVE JUNGLE with new devourer

CreamOfSumYngai·Jul 23, 2015·2 votes·744 views

Each game that I've played recently where we have a jungler running devourer, every lane is left alone with absolutely ZERO assistance... We ask for help, and it's the same old response (I've got to farm all the way to sated devourer before I can do anything, I get stacks better in the jungle.) So there are games where we don't even see our jungler until 25 minutes in... PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE raise stacks gained from champion kills and assists back to 2 so junglers can have some sort of initiative to leave their jungle. Going back to 2 stacks, the junglers would have 2 balanced options of how to gain stacks rather than having to choose between "be involved with my team or jungle alone and get my stacks"

12 Comments

Cosmic CocaineJul 23, 20152 votes

I feel like I'm the only mid who doesn't need jg assistance these days...

CreamOfSumYngaiJul 24, 20152 votes

It's not an issue of not being able to handle a 1v1 lane or a 2v2 lane... For example a game I played yesterday I was adc, by 10 minutes in ALL 5 members of their team had been bot at least twice (in the form of 3-4 man ganks + tps + Shen ult-in etc.) Rest of the team tried to help, but there was our Yi jungling away saying "I can't help until I have 30 stacks." They made it into our base and he was still out jungling.... Game ended and he had 27 stacks....

Cosmic CocaineJul 26, 20151 votes

It's a matter of who you're playing. As you'd imagine, a Veigar can ward off the enemies in a 5v1 until help arrives. However, doing that without a turret is a whole different story.

Mr HyddeJul 24, 20152 votes

thats why its balanced.

TheRakkunJul 23, 20151 votes

Might have to raise it from 30 stacks to transform to 40 or 50

MarthianJul 23, 20152 votes

That just makes the "AFK Jungler" issue worse.

TheRakkunJul 24, 20151 votes

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That just makes the "AFK Jungler" issue worse.

Not if they make kills worth like 3 stacks or if they bump it to 50 maybe 5 stacks? If they don't then Devourer Vayne might be a bit more scary.

LaceUp23Jul 23, 20151 votes

Just remove the item from the game lol. Also, why do you need jungler assistance? Just play your own lane lol.

MarthianJul 23, 20152 votes

Because the enemy jungler is under no such restriction and can gank freely.

Although honestly, as OP as devourers is, if your jungler isn't helping lanes, he's a bad jungler still. I played Shyvana jungle with Devourers and I still assist lanes.

CreamOfSumYngaiJul 24, 20152 votes

I wish the game was that easy... I'll be confident enough to say give me any standard 1v1 matchup in lane and I can mop the floor with anyone.. Never lost one of those try-hard "1v1 me bro in ARAM after this" games. It's when you have the enemy jungler setting up camp in your lane, and you have a jungler that refuses to counter or retaliate in any way. It's the same as playing a 4v5, just the person isn't afk'd or dc'd, just running around doing nothing

ErockandrollJul 24, 20151 votes

Do we really have to attack the item like this, just because the people using it are perpetually stupid?

You don't EVER have to rush Sated, That's an eventuality. You won't fall behind if you don't AFK Farm.
Even if you Do Rush Sated, Your still won't be able to use it effectively without a few levels and BotRK. Leaving you in the same weaken position, except you didn't try to help your teammates.
If your not playing the Objective game, your doing it wrong. Drag will give you 5 stacks. And a good gank can usually lead into a dragon. Even the Scuttler's are useful since the grant vision. All while granting more stacks than your general camps.
As soon as you have a vamp scepter, you have no excuse. You'll always have enough health after 2 or so camps to gank the enemy laner. And should not have to recall without impacting the map.

RogueWillJul 26, 20151 votes

Presence in lane is one of the possible way that the jungler can do to set control over the map but is not really the only one. If he is on the jungle all the time most likely will get a couple of dragons and would go and counterjungle since the respawn times for the camps doesn't allow you to farm forever. Please stop thinking is the jungler job to win the lane for you. If the enemy jungler set up a camp on your lane, ward up or play close to your turret.

On a side not, riot specifically said the he doesn't want junglers to snowball early game, they were balanced and camps were modified around the idea that they wouldn't be able to gank as soon why would they implement an didea that will go back to "clear a few camps and then go to lane and be a bully"again.