Dynamic Queue and why it is bad.

Illazuel·6/9/2016, 7:13:09 AM·71 votes·3,906 views
  1. It allows for a false sense of skill for lower ELO players. It really is VERY easy to pick 3-4 champions that have synergy and just abuse that fact to take down someone 5+ divisions above you on the ladder. It doesn't mean you are better, it means that you brought friends. It's pretty much the same thing as when 4 gang members beat up on one helpless dude, it doesn't make them tough or even good fighters.

  2. It is driving away players. Eventually DQ will cause Queue times to go so high that even people who enjoy it will suffer ill effects from it. The longer it is active, the less solo players will play, until eventually they all go away and non premade games of league are a thing of the past, as well as starting a match in less than 30-45 minutes.

  3. It is allowing people to climb well beyond where they belong on the ladder. Making the competitive ladder essentially no different than playing blind pick.

  4. It is creating an environment where people will not want to play unless they have all of their buddies online, which will eventually lead to a smaller player base as people get tired of sitting around waiting for a group. (think world of warcraft before they put in raid finder) Sure, you can que up with randoms, but people will get really tired of doing so as they will be facing a premade most of the time.

  5. Any real, competitive, gamer is turned off by this. The only people who would support such a system are those who do not belong at the top and used unsavory means to get there. You are condoning cheating to win, and you know it riot. Karma is a bitch, and she will be paying you a visit.

  6. If people want to play with friends, there were already plenty of options to do so. This is just an effort to make bad players feel better about being bad and will result in lost business for riot. Ranked should be about determining individual skill across many categories, not just how well you can assemble a premade. Sure, teamwork should be PART of that but seriously basing competitive ladder on anything besides your solo performance is a joke.

TL DR: DQ is horrible and there are plenty of reasons why. Taking out duo queue and just having it be purely solo queue is a much better idea.

61 Comments

Karn Bishop6/9/2016, 11:32:47 PM10 votes

What i have found is no amount of logic and reasoning will work with dynamic supporters, we create large threads on why it is bad and even made threads on how to replace it with a system that is objectively better for both parties and they just do not care! they like being able to suppress solo players and the enjoy knowing that their existence destroys the competitive environment.

Shyvauni6/9/2016, 6:18:26 PM7 votes

I do nothing but Solo Que and I find this post to be entirely inaccurate.

DarkRitual6/9/2016, 3:29:36 PM7 votes

First point is called strategy. Having cohesion and coordination is a skill. It's just a skill that was seen less in SoloQueue. Generate an advantage and you can overcome a difficult opponent? Surely this is a terrible practice to encourage for climbing.

spombjop6/9/2016, 12:24:38 PM5 votes

Dynamic Queue is fine, this new champ select is bad. LoL is a team game anyway so DQ should be prioritized over SQ. Overwatch also uses DQ. Queue times are long because of cancer solo players that don't want to support. We need old champ select with dynamic queue, that would improve experience for everyone and reduce queue times.

ofart6/10/2016, 2:43:30 AM5 votes

Preach it.

Even if everything was "fixed" and solos always had an equal chance vs premades, the system's still broken. A pure 5s player and pure solo player don't demonstrate the same skills. It's a different experience and I'm not even necessarily saying one is more skillful than the other but they do NOT belong on the same ladder. Averaging out ranking this way just makes it pointless.

I think DQ hurts up and coming players the most. SQ players used to really stand out and get noticed by teams. Now, not only are the top spots filled by those using DQ but the ladder itself isn't as trusted to represent talent.

TheDankasaur6/10/2016, 6:14:54 AM3 votes

I don't see anything wrong with it LeeSin

Win1Ocent6/9/2016, 3:12:20 PM3 votes

My thoughts exactly.

Twitch ADC6/10/2016, 2:47:52 PM3 votes

I get so sick and tired of going solo and getting matched with a trio team who is just "Having fun" like mother fucker I didn't click ranked to have fun i came to win. win rate dropped by 20% sitting at 57% so sad hurts to be the only serious player

billxx6/9/2016, 7:03:51 PM3 votes

Oh, an unoriginal and basic title. Oh yet another dq thread Oh look it's terribly written Oh look he hasn't fact checked Well the boards are in good shape

Sharks R Friends6/10/2016, 6:16:32 AM2 votes

Lucian Sorry, don't mean to keep STEALING the show...

DrDiaga6/9/2016, 6:15:27 PM2 votes

Lol. So much bs in one post.

Nicktoons6/10/2016, 7:31:01 AM1 votes

have they been deleting anti-DQ threads? because I've seen none in the past 3days. They have to be deleting them because its impossible for only one thread being about DQ