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damkan333··4 votes·2,339 views

Zed buffs coming?

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RiotMeddler12 votes

Nothing planned. We tested some possible buffs for 7.3 but decided they weren't appropriate with the buff to Lethality in 7.2 that benefited Zed.

umbraˉ1 votes

Let his shadows be able to auto attack asap.

Sun Wu Ryuumoku2 votes

hopefully... is in good spot... just look his winrate (with a high pick rate).

what's your plan for Aatrox ? Any plan for W MonkeyKing ?

Kei1432 votes

Both are scheduled to be updated when they work on diver class update.

Sun Wu Ryuumoku2 votes

i know that... but Aatrox wont wait one whole year more

they'll do some fix like for Shyvana

Kei1431 votes

so maybe we need to give him a bigger sword, bigger wings, a demon form changing ult, -20% AoE dmg against monsters?

Raxistaicho4 votes

Please don't buff Zed. The only people who like seeing Zed buffed are Zed mains. Even at his weakest he's still abysmally obnoxious to lane against unless you're on an op mid.

Shadòw3 votes

900k Zed main here.

he is playable again after the Lethality changes and actually i don't want to see him buffed to be first permabanned and after that nerfed into an unplayable state again.

Ultîma2 votes

Woah woah, hold on. The Lethality buffs were absolutely massive; wait a bit of time before buffing him because those changes absolutely gave him a huge amount of love.

Canastus1 votes

Don't even think about buffing him or else he'll end up as a permaban again. He's easily the most disliked assassin in the game due to being so extremely overbearing to deal with.

CrimsonReaps1 votes

Does he need them?

singiel381 votes

no imo

SnugglePuggle941 votes

He doesn't need buffs plus he just got some from the Lethality changes.

Justin8ieber1 votes

leathality buff are irrelevant 6 armor pen instaed od 4 scaling to be exactly the same late game Read this : So zed has been forgotten in the pro series a long time ago has become somewhat of a legend of a villain that once was but never again will be .... he went through world and every copetition owards being picked or banned 0 times! He lost all his purpose in season 6 after he got every single spell nerfed 1 by 1 here is all the details : -patch 6.3 R deathmark 30/40/50% of damage taken ? 25/35/45% of damage taken whick is a 5% decrease at all ranks when it requires you do a lot of damage anyway to be effective -patch 6.7 W living shadow COOLDOWN: 18/17/16/15/14 seconds ? 22/20/18/16/14 seconds which means zed can only apply pressure in more than 1 3rd of a miniute when others have cc and damage on a much lower cooldown i.e lb W katarina jump PASSIVE BONUS ATTACK DAMAGE: 5/10/15/20/25% ? 4/8/12/16/20% non relevant now but still an other 5% overall decrease. -patch 6.8 : Zed no longer gains 20 extra attack damage when activating W - Living Shadow ouch 20 damage less aw. -patch 6.11 the worst of them all : Q spell razor shiriken DAMAGE: 75/115/155/195/235 ? 70/105/140/175/210 this is an over all loss of 25 base damage being the worst zed nerf of all time. RATIO: 1.0 bonus attack damage ? 0.9 bonus attack damage this is a 10 % overall decrease in damage DAMAGE PER ADDITIONAL SHURIKEN: 50% ? 75% and this means only when a shadow is up you will benefit from a tiny boost but is still a draw bacl on the damage when it is a skill shot 2 to be correct and others such as ahri for example have true damage more range and true damge if double tap q spell . -patch 6.12 made zeds shadows statues insted of shadows! THE SEEN BLADE: Shadows created by W - Living Shadow and R - Death Mark are now marked by a circular team indicator. and the last yet terrible nerfs, the assassin update :( -patch 6.22 : W - Living Shadow REMOVED OVER THE TOP: No longer provides 4/8/12/16/20% bonus attack damage so whats the point of building ad on zed again? ENERGY RETURN ON MULTI-HIT: 20/25/30/35/40 ? 30/35/40/45/50 irrelevant. SHADOW SWAP RANGE: 1100 ? 1300 this is nice but irrelevant compared to all the damage lost in pure and percentage damage. E - Shadow Slash: COOLDOWN: 4 seconds at all ranks ? 5/4.5/4/3.5/3 seconds this ruined zed early game forever . DAMAGE: 60/90/120/150/180 ? 65/90/115/140/165 this is an overall 15 atk dmg decrease resulting in a terrible mid late game.

  • Death Mark: NEW SHADOW REAPING: Whenever Death Mark kills an enemy, Zed steals their shadow for himself, gaining a portion of their attack damage. Zed can only possess one shadow at a time, and only steals a new shadow if it would give him more damage. REAPING BONUS: 5 attack damage + 5/10/15% of the target’s total attack damage. this requires a full on assassination only benefit at lvl 6 up and has less damage late and mid game then building ad. this means that what zed was so good at playing vs mages is irrelevant (especially in a control mage meta) + going after adcarry's that can just build crit so you get negative agvantage and tops that are tanks! One last thing how are new players and smurfs meant to benefit from zed's "strengths" without having him with full runes and masteries? it's is the worst feeling in the world to get zed in a box or buy him for 6300 ip and realize that without full stuff he is an irrelevant champion.

Let's some up all the damage taken out of zed's kit : pure damage = -20 -25 -15 = -60 overall pure damage (add - 60 damage for 1 less early totaling at -120 overall damage ) now percentage damage = -5% -5% -10% -20%(w passive obliterated) = - 40% percentage damage ! plus in assassin update talon ad went from 55 to 60 which is 5 red ad runes more, and zed's stayed at 54.712 also must say that the developpers did not test zed when working on him only messed negatively with his numbers. also all zeds spells exept ultimate that requires lot's of damage on top to be usefull is bonus ad meaning that champs like pantheon run free out there with 140 % and 300% total ad on q spell of 4 secs cooldown etc ... you get my point difference in win rates out 55% (pantheon) and 47% (zed) also all shields, support items and spells make zed assassinating very poor with all these damage decreases.

conclusion: season 6 murdered zed. Please upvote this post zed mains rebels yourselves and make zed a relevant villain again also so we can get a glimpse of him back in the pro series have faker and bjergsen consider him and help new zed players lvl 1-30 appreciate him !

Justin8ieber1 votes

you scared of bans really if you are then why play at all, many other champs diserve bans more than zed or use them to prevent couter picks . zed can not apply enough pressure at any state of the game compared to all other champs without a nerf he is impossible to use effectively especially the 22 shadow is an abuseivly high cooldown

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