Re: new conqueror

VoidStaresBack·2/8/2019, 2:22:07 AM·11 votes·11,105 views

I've been tinkering with new Conqueror on the PBE somewhat and have seen some misunderstandings about how exactly it works, so I figured I'd provide what I've found so far.

  1. DoTs. This one seems to be the thing everyone is super concerned about, and having tested four different champions with DoT abilities (Brand, Darius, Malzahar, and Cassiopeia) I can say that the DoT neither adds stacks for its ticks or maintains your existing stacks. If the DoT is on an active ability, it will provide a single stack for hitting the ability, but those stacks will fall off with the usual timer, often while the DoT itself is still active.

  2. Pets. There aren't many pets in the game but I only tested one so far, Malzahar voidlings. They do not provide or refresh stacks, even on the first hit from the pet. I assume Tibbers, specifically, will provide one stack if you hit someone with the initial damage, although I have not tested this. These two combined pretty much kill any possibility of Conqueror Malzahar and seriously limit its usefulness on Yorick.

  3. Multi-hit abilities. An ability that is one cast but hits multiple times (such as Sejuani W or Vel'koz W) only provides on stack, even if multiple hits land.

  4. Multi-cast abilities. An ability that can be cast multiple times (Like Aatrox and Riven Q) will provide one stack for each cast, provided you hit a champion with each cast.

  5. x-hit passives. I haven't thoroughly tested this, but I can say that vel'koz passive does not provide a stack when it procs. Given the previous trends, I would not be surprised if this applied to all x-hit passives.

  6. Multi-auto passives. This is pretty much just Yi and Lucian, but their passives provide them with two stacks when they activate, being two separate autos and all.

20 Comments

Apocalypsic2/8/2019, 2:59:02 AM5 votes

It's exactly how old fervor operated, but with an anti tank element for extended trades.

SpaghettiVase2/8/2019, 5:48:28 AM2 votes

I’m really happy for these changes. Hopefully it’ll be a rune you can bring into lanes where trading is difficult instead of being a rune where you just win every trade and shove wave at the same time

Tilted0ne2/10/2019, 9:50:11 AM2 votes

looks like Urgot has to get nerfed again... hit Q -> W and you are fully stacked...

btw. how does it interact with item 3085 if you hit multiple champs? prob only one stack... and how does it work with item 3124 ? does the phantom hit passiv give an stack?

Bonipherus2/8/2019, 8:26:38 PM2 votes

Dammit and I thought Singed was finally going to get a good damage keystone :(

PaffWasTaken2/8/2019, 5:53:52 PM1 votes

Have you tried Azir 's multiple hits with a soldier and multiple soldier hittings? I feel like this would be hella broken if it worked.

Also, Cassiopeia 's seems like it can stack AND refresh, so yeah, I hope she gets some reaaaaaal nerfs since she already deserved some

Modl Ryden l2/8/2019, 6:45:35 PM1 votes

Thanks for providing the boards your findings, OP. Much appreciated. Glad to see there are summoners much like yourself that take the initiative to gives things a try before passing judgement! 🤠👍

Saianna2/8/2019, 5:33:09 PM1 votes

In other words: beyond very few mages that have spammable spells, like cass, conqueror is definitely not made with mages in mind. And it's also quite stacked with goodies, cause why not.

AntiSJW2/8/2019, 8:53:44 PM1 votes

Pretty sure Yorick's pets are special and share his rune buffs especially for stat buffs

WoonStruck2/8/2019, 10:49:19 PM1 votes

I feel like its going to break ryze tho.

Jinzo best card2/9/2019, 12:46:58 AM1 votes

DoTs refresh stack duration right now on the new PBE update (but they don't refresh the 5-stack buff, you have to use a new ability to proc it)

Alzon2/8/2019, 5:38:20 PM1 votes

What about AoE? Does hitting multiple champions with the same ability grant multiple stacks?