Let's talk about Volibear.

CamaHa··4 votes·786 views

I know Zileas hates Volibear guts. But why not make him usefull in teamfight?

Right now in fight u W burst some1 and then it feels like u're just twindling ur thumbs. Why not buff W - at full stacks attacks against enemy champions reduce cooldown of active of this skill by 1 sec? Now if u're lucky u might get off second W in same fight.

It makes something for Voli player to aim for and not just be like "I used my Burst CD I'm finished for today".

Thoughts?

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IceKingChernobog2 votes

i would love some kind of buffs to him, he's very lack luster at the moment

cZair1 votes

I'm a volibear main and I think that's to much, because his W is really powerful. Also if you are only building tank that's what's going to happen. You're only going to have your W. You might want to build some attack Items on him to make him more powerful. Also I feel he just needs a 45% all for his Q and reduce some damage so they can to put on a AP% on his Q. He still does physical damage with his Q. So the mix of AP and AD works better on him.

Sooko1 votes

Or give the Thunder Claws a little scaling on AD/HP instead of AP, so he can use his ult more effectively in TFs and build towards it.

CamaHa1 votes

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Or give the Thunder Claws a little scaling on AD/HP instead of AP, so he can use his ult more effectively in TFs and build towards it.

It got high base dmg. I don't think ult should be changed.

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I'm a volibear main and I think that's to much, because his W is really powerful. Also if you are only building tank that's what's going to happen. You're only going to have your W. You might want to build some attack Items on him to make him more powerful. Also I feel he just needs a 45% all for his Q and reduce some damage so they can to put on a AP% on his Q. He still does physical damage with his Q. So the mix of AP and AD works better on him.

Ehhhh..... Man but u don't build AP on Voli. Right now it's best to builf HP + resists + AS item. item 3091 is perffect item for Voli. Yes ult is strong on hit steroid. Yes W is strong execute. But Once u engage, flip + pop E slow then W some1 u just feel useless. W cooldown is too long to be used as an effective skill in teamfight. It's great for skirmishes/1v1s but in a 5v5 fight at dragon, for example? U won't get to backline (one slow will nulify Q speed boost), using W on tanky frontline is just a waste (will take too long to get to decent execute dmg increase). So what can u do in a teamfight environment? try to flank?

cZair1 votes

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It got high base dmg. I don't think ult should be changed.

Ehhhh..... Man but u don't build AP on Voli. Right now it's best to builf HP + resists + AS item. item 3091 is perffect item for Voli. Yes ult is strong on hit steroid. Yes W is strong execute. But Once u engage, flip + pop E slow then W some1 u just feel useless. W cooldown is too long to be used as an effective skill in teamfight. It's great for skirmishes/1v1s but in a 5v5 fight at dragon, for example? U won't get to backline (one slow will nulify Q speed boost), using W on tanky frontline is just a waste (will take too long to get to decent execute dmg increase). So what can u do in a teamfight environment? try to flank?

I just hate that the AP seems very useless on voli and there's no reason to use it. I want just thinking of a reason why to use it.

Also why don't we just add on Tenacity on to his alt so he's not effected as bad? Like when his alt goes off he removes all crowd control effects and gives his more Tenacity.

CamaHa1 votes

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I just hate that the AP seems very useless on voli and there's no reason to use it. I want just thinking of a reason why to use it.

Also why don't we just add on Tenacity on to his alt so he's not effected as bad? Like when his alt goes off he removes all crowd control effects and gives his more Tenacity.

Riot has stayed away from champs that scale with both AD and AP. They reworked champs that scaled that way too(Sion is primary example). I highly doubt they would want to make awkward champion like that again. If Voli gets scaling with AP I'm guessing u expect item 3116 as core right? Voli's R and Q are on hit effects they won't proc item 3116 slow. Only W (full) and E (reduced cuz of AoE) will benefit and their CDs is just infeasible to make it worth it.

Tenacity on ult? That... just... doesn't feel right, does it? Ult is DPS CD.

cZair1 votes

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Riot has stayed away from champs that scale with both AD and AP. They reworked champs that scaled that way too(Sion is primary example). I highly doubt they would want to make awkward champion like that again. If Voli gets scaling with AP I'm guessing u expect item 3116 as core right? Voli's R and Q are on hit effects they won't proc item 3116 slow. Only W (full) and E (reduced cuz of AoE) will benefit and their CDs is just infeasible to make it worth it.

Tenacity on ult? That... just... doesn't feel right, does it? Ult is DPS CD.

Well I was thinking about the lore of voli when he is in battle and all. for the Tenacity effect.

Also Yeah I thought item 3116 I thought that proc when he used his R ^^'

Fitz n The Fool1 votes

RIP Ionic Spark - best item ever for Voli.

CamaHa1 votes

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RIP Ionic Spark - best item ever for Voli.

I'm pretty sure Wit's end right now does more dmg. Ionic spark did what? 100dmg every 4th hit? But it did give HP for Voli tho

Fitz n The Fool1 votes

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I'm pretty sure Wit's end right now does more dmg. Ionic spark did what? 100dmg every 4th hit? But it did give HP for Voli tho

Yeah but LIGHTNING bro

insaiyanbacca1 votes

thats why ive been debating going shiv bear

MotherChurch1 votes

All he needs IMO, is for his Q to give a flat 30 / 35 / 40 / 45 / 50% movement speed for the duration and do away with the running faster toward enemies. That and maybe a tweak on his ratios would put him in a good place.

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