I've noticed... quite a bit of an increase of Jungle Poppys lately, and they are ruthless. They counter jungle like crazy and their ult is... their ult, in my opinion, one of the most toxic ults in the game since there's no counterplay outside of run away.
What made Jungle Poppy 'popular' all of a sudden? I use '' since it's still rare, but according to Lolking at the moment, Smite is the 2nd most taken skill on Poppy after Flash.
Linna Excel2 votesShe's a lategame top champ with a lot of counters up top. So you take her into the jungle for the same reason you take wukong into the jungle: to avoid your counters. You also do it because she has a rough early game. I'll also argue that she's got an extremely versatile build path and can work with any of the 4 jungle items. Not many junglers can do that.
Kharn Skyshatter2 votesYes you can Quicksilver sash Poppy's ult. But she'll have her ult long before her target will have a Quicksilver Sash (usually support so she can dive the AD carry with no fear).
Drunk Rummate1 votesYes you can Quicksilver sash Poppy's ult. But she'll have her ult long before her target will have a Quicksilver Sash (usually support so she can dive the AD carry with no fear).
QSS will cleanse the bonus damage but it doesn't remove Poppy's invulnerability, unfortunately.
Pharrøw1 votesI've just been playing forgotten champs where they can't get bullied too hard. Poppy jungle fits that bill, and it scares the living fuck out of people when she comes to lane. I've taken countless flashes just from popping my head out for a gank, and they end up exp and gold-starved.
I've done the same with GP and Galio lately as well. Take 'em to the jungle and people no longer abuse them when they show up to lane.
GanksLikeGast0n1 votesIrellia translates amazingly well to the jungle for this reason as well.
EvilRabbitt1 votesIrelia is almost as scary as Shyvana.... those 2 gank so well, and hyper carry so well too.
Drogmyre1 votesPoppy jungle is a lot like release amumu jungle:
She goes in, 20 minutes later (and perhaps a few ganks) comes out and rapes your team mercilessly.
Jinxed Amulet1 votesI'm not sure but I was considering practicing jungle Poppy myself. I like playing champs that are generally underplayed because people forget how to face 'em. I've been playing Ashe more often lately as an example.
Eawaf1 votesHer ult is what makes her unique as a champion in LoL. There is counterplay outside of running, If your the target you can still CC/ slow, kite. Positioning and baiting is also counterplay to her. Instead of fighting in 2 mobs in the middle of the map do something different.
Sparchilé1 votesreally if her e is down and the other person has any kind of dash poppy isn't going to get close enough anyway while her ult is up. so there is really easy counter play during her ult. its just people get scared because poppy hits like a truck.
rtbf498151291 votesMost toxic ult? What about tyrndamere, and kayle, don't forget that malzahar Warwick and urgot ults can't be countered in a 1v1 unless your gp, if your gonna complain about how powerful she is look at her mana pool and ability to get assists first, then see your ez get two shot and say poppy's Q did 1.4K damage, I rarely hit my ult targets late game but when I do I'm doing 1000 damage on a 3 second cooldown.
Edit: oh sorry I was kinda a jerk there, I play poppy jungle cause I saw poppy thought HELL YES, and then looked her up on YouTube found "opened" who is a master league poppy player, and saw that he plays her jungle, and that they ban poppy sometimes in fear of him.
Skia Asteri1 votesMost toxic ult? What about tyrndamere, and kayle, don't forget that malzahar Warwick and urgot ults can't be countered in a 1v1 unless your gp, if your gonna complain about how powerful she is look at her mana pool and ability to get assists first, then see your ez get two shot and say poppy's Q did 1.4K damage, I rarely hit my ult targets late game but when I do I'm doing 1000 damage on a 3 second cooldown.
With Kayle and Trynd you can CC them. With Poppy, if you are not the target of her ult you cannot do anything to her. If that was fixed (say champions she attacks gain the ability to damage and cc her if she attacks them) then it would be less toxic.
rtbf498151291 votesWat I can cc when Kayles ult is on? I had no idea. And you can't ult on targets with banshees veil, there's some counter play for you, can you quick silver sash poppy ult? She would be a pretty cruddy champ if that works.
Skia Asteri1 votesWat I can cc when Kayles ult is on? I had no idea. And you can't ult on targets with banshees veil, there's some counter play for you, can you quick silver sash poppy ult? She would be a pretty cruddy champ if that works.
You can remove the damage debuff with sash, but she keeps the immunity. Usually outside of a 1v1 situation Poppy players ult someone other than their primary target since the immunity ends before the duration expires if the target dies. So you can do more with the immunity if you do not kill the target as quickly as possible. This makes the toxic play pattern the most effective way to use her ult in many situation.
rtbf498151291 votesCool beans, this is her win rate in diamond check that out if it is over 55% win rate sue me
Edit:ATM the win rate is 49-53% which is almost on the list of champs that need to be tweeked. (In my opinion 54% is too high and 46% is too low, I want champs to be between 47-53%)
And it seems that you've answered your own question "why is jungle poppy catching on?" The answer is because she is a good champ, if you disagree here is a counter question: why is jungle Lee Sin popular? Or how about: why is jungle udyr catching on?
I want a healthy wide variety of champions, so I would focus on getting Evelynn played or galio played. Well if you think she is OP, you can purchase her now for the low cost of 450ip.
Marenjii1 votesQSS cleanses the debuff that causes her to do extra damage to her target. She still keeps the nigh invulnerability. Banshee's is not counterplay. You did nothing but buy an otem.
Wezz1 votesBecause you cut out the enemy laner killing her for free, and free mana from first blue to start your farm
According to a friend you build
Elder lizard merc or moblity Trinity bork
Can't remember the last two
rtbf498151291 votesAny boots work I for one perfer Ionian or others in diffrent situations, after Bork get ie and then whatever you want really be it randuins zephyr static shiv, DFG, zhonya's hourglass, warmogs, bloodthirster, ravenous hydra.
Drogmyre1 votesProbably Randuin's and another damage item.
Drunk Rummate1 votesyou get a blue buff in the jungle. poppy presses Q and it costs 2/3 of her mana at level 1 so she's terrible in lane.
rtbf498151291 votesThat isn't true she has 185 mana level one and her q costs 55. It's about 1/3, more than 1/4 at level 2. At level six she can use q twice and w, e, r once each and have negative 5 mana.
Edit: yes the blue is very nice, but not as necessary as you make it out to be.
Drunk Rummate1 votesThat isn't true she has 185 mana level one and her q costs 55. It's about 1/3, more than 1/4 at level 2. At level six she can use q twice and w, e, r once each and have negative 5 mana.
Edit: yes the blue is very nice, but not as necessary as you make it out to be.
i was exaggerating for dramatic effect. point is that lane poppy can't trade in lane because she goes oom way too quickly. The jungle lets her get past that point due to the blue buff and spirit stone.
Like how does poppy trade in lane against a Ryze? Well she E+Qs him, gets rooted and has to walk away or get kited. Now she's low on mana and Ryze has half health and 2 biscuits. And that's a good scenario for Poppy.
rtbf498151291 votesCool, my brother thinks he has gotten past this problem with crystalline flask and 3 pots, I don't think he's played poppy against the new ap top meta. Speaking of which why isn't that the name of this thread? "Why are ap tops catching on"
Narasimha1 votesSame reason why Wukong found a home in the jungle. Its safer than top lane. They don't hve to worry about their weaker early levels as much, and mana isn't an issue.
Eawaf1 votesJust like the commentators said in the UOL vs Millenium game (game 3). She has her niche. She is a good "siege breaker" with her ult. And it forces teams to play the game differently instead of the same thing over and over again. I'm not for changing this ult.
Rustling Bush1 votesits proably because no one can fking kill her with that passive.
Hellhammer1 votesI started jungling 3 weeks ago for the first time. because i got tired of watching the other top bully me. and waiting for 15 minutes.
I can only describe it being like five nights at freddy's... and I'm freddy, I may show up at anytime without any warning.
I may show up at level 2 or 3. I may not show up until level 6.
I've often wondered what it must be like knowing i could show up. because when I gank its like a reverse blitz grab. or heck i may just walk under tower to kill ya.
