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How are you meant to climb when everyone feeds

lluxxdot··16 votes·10,415 views

Ive made one post like this before and all i heard was "its YOU" or "you suck" or "git gud" like, how am i meant to climb in this elo when i get all of my lanes feeding im a jungler btw. Last game i played i had a Karthus that was 1/11 and kept telling me to kill myself and that im a waste of oxygen, a top laner losing to a Tryndramere and he kept telling me he was going to "Fck my mother", my botlane was already 0/5 each by 5 minutes. Like is it really possible to climb in this elo? and i know its not just a BAD GAME because its all the time? is it really worth my time? i play a game and win and get like 16lp and then play another and lose it, or ill play 2 games and win both then lose most of the lp anyway, i feel like its impossible to climb because of my teammates in my previous 10 games ive had 2 good teams that actually know what to do? this is a huge issue cause i all of my friends have quit cause of how toxic this game is, and LETS NOT LIE, this game is a disgrace when it comes to the community. In the previous month ive had someone say they will F my mother Rpe my sister Go and kill myself Go eat a bullet (same as kms i guess) Shouting racial slurs at me Murder me and my family/ The fact that these people arnt banned instantly is beyond me. Is it really worth playing in this elo? I know someone who is basically a diamond player and he couldnt be bothered with it and just bought an account into diamond and its where hes meant to be, he has games that he loses by a fraction because of the skill difference. Its a bit of a joke and i really cant see myself climbing, you either get smurfs on their team and lose, feeders on your team and lose to the point you cant carry, your team just arguing with eachother and making things worse. Its just? its so toxic and i really dont know about this game anymore, its just turned to utter sh*t in my opinion, i know you guys are gunna disagree but this games community is actually horrible

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ExcaliburX6 votes
  1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfSwhUwzcOw
  2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuCBabUEDrQ&t=15s
  3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8FWOUBBCtA

Watch and apply. Find out what your doing wrong and work on it.

I am Bardo Bard4 votes

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  1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfSwhUwzcOw
  2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuCBabUEDrQ&t=15s
  3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8FWOUBBCtA

Watch and apply. Find out what your doing wrong and work on it.

This is exactly the kind of bullshit the OP did not need. That is like saying you're a race driver and your "mates" slash your tyres. You come up with videos about "How to shift gears better", "Aquaplanning and Drifting, Vol.2" and "How to calculate fuel usage". The problem of the slashed tyres are not adressed by that. What does it matter anyways when he is obviously reaching his limit and 50-75% of his "team" are utter crap? You can try to drive with those slashed tyres, go ahead. If you lose, I will mock you.

I have a 4-premade of French bobs lately that went like 4/35 together. They died by invades, they died together, they were not communicating, my pings they did not mind, my wards they did not mind - I just went AFK and played Dishonored. Can you post me some: "What Low Elo players do wrong" videos now, too that won't change anything at the slightest?

ModAcademy Kayn2 votes

I have a 4-premade of French bobs lately that went like 4/35 together. They died by invades, they died together, they were not communicating, my pings they did not mind, my wards they did not mind - I just went AFK and played Dishonored. Can you post me some: "What Low Elo players do wrong" videos now, too that won't change anything at the slightest?

There's nothing you can do, you're right. That doesn't change the fact that consistently being good at the game will let you climb, even if it takes a while. The advice a couple of friends in diamond gave me, is to aim for only 6 deaths a game. If you can manage that, you'll climb. Sometime's it's unavoidable, sometimes you get shit teammates, but as long as you do consistently well, you will climb. So it's better to work on improving yourself and try not to let the occasional impossible games tilt you, than it is to whine about why your teammates are the reason you can't climb.

All you can truly affect, is yourself. It sucks when you get a bad team, but there's literally nothing you can do about it.

ExcaliburX2 votes

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This is exactly the kind of bullshit the OP did not need. That is like saying you're a race driver and your "mates" slash your tyres. You come up with videos about "How to shift gears better", "Aquaplanning and Drifting, Vol.2" and "How to calculate fuel usage". The problem of the slashed tyres are not adressed by that. What does it matter anyways when he is obviously reaching his limit and 50-75% of his "team" are utter crap? You can try to drive with those slashed tyres, go ahead. If you lose, I will mock you.

I have a 4-premade of French bobs lately that went like 4/35 together. They died by invades, they died together, they were not communicating, my pings they did not mind, my wards they did not mind - I just went AFK and played Dishonored. Can you post me some: "What Low Elo players do wrong" videos now, too that won't change anything at the slightest?

He is Gold 3? Hello? He has lot of room to improve and work on. So how is it that providing him with good video about improving his jungle is not the kind of thing he doesnt need? This is not bs, i even watch these videos infact i dont recommend videos that i havent watch. So i didnt just search and found these videos. These are videos that sometimes i go back and watch in order to go over the basics.

I am a diamond player, so if im watching videos and even going over them than it isnt BS. Learning and wanting to improve and searching to do that should be something that everyone should do when they come across a problem they dont know how to overcome. Thats why his here and asking and thats why i am providinng with resources to help him.

Players that dont take video guides and learn from them because they think its "BS" or they know better are the ones that are hard stuck players. The video provides him with answer he needs and more for him to carry himself out of the division and the game.

As far as your example of the game, if you did everything that you could and still end up losing than there is nothing you can do about it because not every game is winnable but you should always play to win.

BTW, the example you used are normal games, how i know? Because you can't que as 4 man flex in SR rank and neither can you in Solo/Duo rank. So take your shit normal game examples out of here because apparently you didnt get the news, we are talking about ranks.

Instead of criticizing about my advice, how about you give one your self and if you dont have one than maybe you should keep your thoughts to your self next time. I am actually trying to help someone thats asking for it but here you are trying to jeopardize my post by making people think it that its not a valid response. Dont drag others down from wanting to improve just because you dont want to.

G0blinSlay3r6 votes

Don't speak up about it. riot doesn't allow free thinking. everything is doing exactly what riots system wants.

Zed genius5 votes

That's like season 9. I will stop playing solo Queue for the rest of the season and hope it gets better next year. But let's be honest, it will only get worse.

Jamaree4 votes

You keep playing and win the games where people don't feed. Everyone feeds literally everyone. All you do is keep playing well and efficiently and you will raise up. All you need to climb in this game is a 51% win rate.

Illabethe7 votes

What a crock of crap. it depends on how you earned that 51%, or how Riot treats that 51%.

If you had consecutive losses and then turn around and start winning 70%, you'll climb, assuming you aren't 9 LP a win and - 21 LP a loss. If you had consecutive wins but then start losing, your 51% will quagmire you and you will slowly derank.

If Riot decides to change its Ranked model in a season, they can literally manually destroy your MMR (Happened this season due to Positional ranking, and happened in Season 6 with Dynamic Queue and a ranked reset)

This account had a 70% Win rate in its first 140 games. I played those 140 games in Positional Ranked as "Fill." 3 of 5 of my ranks had over a 70% win rate, and only climbed 5-6 ranks because I was playing "Fill" and slowly splashing all my ranks. However, when they ended Positional ranking, I had a net 52% Win Rate between all roles. That earned me the above 9 LP a win and 21 LP a loss, because my ADC performance was what they assigned me as my MMR, while giving me my highest rank (Mid/Support). Adc was a 36% Win rate.

And yeah. I contacted support about this issue. Their Response: If you keep playing the way you're playing, you'll close the LP gap in no time. We won't adjust it. It took me over 170 more games just to get to 16-17 LP a win. Even when I was winning 70% by playing nothing but Mid/Support, I was deranking, because 1 loss erased 3 wins.

Meanwhile, I made another account about 3-4 months ago. It's currently on its way to platinum with similar performance.

LightswornLance1 votes

Just carry all your games and win 4head.

CaptainAntiHeroz3 votes

One hand over the other like every other climber? Duh duh?

floo2 votes

You certainly won't climb by making it your teammates' fault everytime.

If you're at a flat 50% winrate or even going negative, you might've hit your best potential for the moment. However, you can work on it. Try to get some intel on how to jungle properly, find out what you're doing wrong and work on it.

You seem to play a few champs with really good winrates. Try to play more with those champions you are comfortable with and less, let's say Yasuo. If you want to climb in lower elo it's best to become good with few champions and learn how to carry with them, than playing many different ones.

If climbing wouldn't be possible, nobody would be in challenger or close to it. This mindset won't let you climb.

Also

The fact that these people arnt banned instantly is beyond me

If they chat like you're telling they are most likely banned pretty soon or right after the game. I don't know how people come up with this when there is no clear indication of it happening or not. Your best shot to guess, is to look if they have a 2 week break between games or just stop playing for a large amount of time. But you can't know (unless IFS) if someone is banned literally after the game is over.

PhearBunny1 votes

play a meta carry champion. Otherwise you are opting to ride your teamates into a loss or a win.

Hi im 121 votes

if you can't make it to dia with 70% wr as a jungler you're just bad man, its time to face the facts and git gud :)

FioraWillCarry1 votes

If a hard stuck Iron 3 player made this post, what would you say to them?

EyesOfTheFox1 votes

Just play high damage champions with hard cc.

figold6661 votes

Pick champions who can gank early and get your allies fed. Look for early game jglers like Elise who can grant your ally a plethora of advantages.

Magnesium141 votes

Play something overpowered. If you don't you can't complain.

CourtWizardAhri1 votes

You can deactivate chat by the way. I recently did that for a while and it really helped show me which teammates are trying and which ones sit at home all day and flame while praying to god that someone can carry their heavy asses. I of course chose to work with the teammates that are trying. I will say that I cant help but question just how the fuck do they die so fast? No matter how fast I roam I can never seem to die as fast as they are.

Jabaknob1 votes

As an jg also, it happens, but you can climb, i went from b1 all the way down to r1 and back to b2, thats where i am at right now. one mistake i wish i never did was jump right into rank when i was still learning the basics of the game.

as of right now i basically seen it all in low elo, lets list them shall we.

1 person on enemy team or your team get mad, and runs down each lane feeding, adc dont know how to dodge skill shots and keeps dieing over and over, so rage quits, adc or support keeps getting hooked, and dont understand what playing behind an minion means, and rage quits get a team mate that wants to try a new champ out that the never played before in a rank game and feeds (i get this one alot in my games) Jg get mad at a laner so never helps that laner, even if they keep getting camped top-mid lets there enemy laner roam with out pinging, and just stay in lane while enemy roams freely( get this one alot to) support dont ward, no one on team wards ( get this one some times) get smurfs on enemy team that just become toxic and start saying your team suxs in all chat get a smurf on your team and they feed and your like wtf, ( sometimes i think they bought their account) get 1mill-4 mill mastery champ on your team, and they have no clue what there doing ( this one makes me lol, bought there account)

the best one is, your in game and not even 4 mins into the game, you have a laner ping for help, you go help them, get a gank off with no help, enemy laner is gets away with like 20 hp, while your laner sit under tower with half to full hp with no map awareness

the list can go on and on,

others have said you can climb and if no one is shot calling and they just doing there own thing, get on your teams ass and start making shot calls, dont be toxic to your team, just be like hey, your our adc, you do the most damage, we need you in team fights and to stay in the back line, let me peel for you, every one else focus there hard hitters and save your cc for those enemy champs in team fights, also ward up baren the whole area, we going to fake it. get your team to move around obj. become the shot caller.

sometimes you will get the team that just dont care or not listen.

if it get to bad, just mute all and leave pings open and jam out to a playlist it really helps, once u lose 2 games back 2 back, stop and go play arma, or something, and come back after, so you can be in a better mind state

LightswornLance1 votes

As a jungler just mute all and play a champ that can 1v9. Leech lane exp and cs after ganks. Nothing your teammates could say possibly could positively impact the game.

Kendren11 votes

Honestly i'd recommend not rly worrying about it. This seasons about as anti fun as a video game can get, and if u climb in s9... no ones rly going to care, because the ranked system is such a shit show atm. I feel like the toxicity ur experiencing is also coming from the generally low player moral and people giving up on caring about their ranked games because of this problem.

Its depressing but riot kinda broke this game, mb next season wont suck but who knows.

Baron Kreight1 votes

you need to spend thousands upon thiusands of hrs playing this and maybe tgen you will learn how to give feeders on your team a free win. Is it worth it? Do smth better with ur life.

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