I have been playing for a month, am terrible, and don't know how to improve. Please help.

Azïr··1 votes·1,044 views

Warning: long post, TL;DR at bottom.

Hello veterans of League.

My roommate has been playing League for some time, but I've never been interested until recently. I play some casual Starcraft, Diablo, etc., so I am not new to the visual style/controls of the game. However, I have never played a MOBA before. I was looking at fanart online and found some cool pieces for League champions. I thought Azir's design was the best, so I decided to try the game. I was not discouraged by the high IP cost of the character, and played against AI using the free rotation until I accumulated enough to buy him. I have since gathered that this was a terrible idea, but it worked for me at the time and I don't regret it.

I find Azir to be very squishy at all stages of a game, but he is still my favourite champion to play. I have tried many of the champions on free rotation (Riven, Ryze, Lux, Ashe, Tahm Kench, Sejuani, etc.) and found that I prefer ranged characters over melee. Mid and support are my favourite roles, with Janna being my go-to for the latter once I discovered her from this week's rotation. I also liked Lux in either role but don't have enough IP to unlock her yet.

Obviously, when I started, I died a lot even against AI, so I practised until I would die 5 times or less per game before moving to blind pick PvP. I think I was level 10 or so. Since then, I have played mostly PvP unless I was trying out a champion that sounded complicated. I know that one of the most important things for a beginner to learn is how to last hit, so I have focused on CS more so than on trying to kill the other midlaner (1/3 of the time Yasuo). I also know that not dying early is important, so I tend to play very safe near the turret and always try to keep one of the river bushes warded. A piece of advice I've seen somewhere is to look at the minimap every time I last hit a minion, and I try to keep that up. For runes and masteries I just look up what's popular and make my best approximation.

I don't know about you all, but I encountered a tonne of flames and not that much constructive criticism in those PvP matches, often despite telling my teammates that I am new. The friends I play with in premades are: -"Sona," who is also new at the game, prefers support/adc, and is already discouraged by the amount of flames; -"Cait," my roommate, who only plays blind pick and adc; -"Nocturne," who stopped 2 years ago and just got back into the game. I play about 1/3 to 1/2 of my games in a premade, and the rest with randoms.

I can deal with being killed repeatedly under my own tower or as I attempt to ward a bush by champions I've never seen in a game before, let alone played against. (If there is a way to look up an opponent's abilities while you are in a game, let me know. That may prevent one of those 1/10/2 games I get every so often.) I can deal with 5-game loss streaks and being told I'm terrible in myriad ways, because I know I'm terrible and am focused on just CS and not dying for the moment. The problem is, I'm level 26 now, and my (level 30, bronze, or silver) teammates seem to expect even more skill/game knowledge that I don't have. For example, I used to take cleanse because it gets me out of trouble, but people tell me to take other summoner spells and I don't know why. Also, I try to do damage to the opponent's tower when the other midlaner is elsewhere, but apparently that is incorrect as well, and I'm not sure what I should do otherwise. The list goes on. I don't want to keep enraging my teammates even though I personally have fun because I am practising the champions I like.

TL;DR: do any of you experienced players remember how you managed to climb over the brick wall of a learning curve I am facing at the moment, if you have had similar experiences when you just started League? (Is my pigeon prince Azir the problem?) Any advice is appreciated.

11 Comments

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

You did choose a particularly tough champion to master, it's not necessarily you. Many of the older and cheaper champions are much easier to use for a newer player, but if you really want to stick with Azir that is completely up to you and you can master him with enough time. Check out some Azir gameplay videos on Youtube imo, read some guides and set up your Runes/Masteries and builds accordingly, and most of all keep trying.

Azïr1 votes

Thank you for the advice and encouragement :) I was very bad at Starcraft in the beginning, and I was advised to practice my macro mechanics because at low levels, those were what determined the outcome of a game rather than specific matchups and fights (most of the time). I kind of took the same mindset to League, so I decided to just pick a champion I liked the look of and work out the basics first with him, disregarding meta. I will certainly keep at it.

R0XTAR1 votes

When I started back in season 3, I was in much of the predicament as you are in right now. My friend never showed me how to use my gold xD and I was feeding nonstop because I didn't know what to do. The advice he gave me was to watch some videos of the champion you like and try to copy what they do.

For example, you really like Azir. I would watch some videos on how to combo his abilities and what items to build early. Learn about how to "freeze" a lane or properly push or let them push back so your jungler can gank you.

It's a subtle art and people learn different ways. Another friend of mine said that the only way you learn and get better is through blood... meaning losing a lot and finally getting the hang of it. Personally, I don't recommend this as it tends to fuel the flames for trolling.

When I wanted to get better at Ekko, I looked up some builds and watched some animation cancelling videos to get better at him.

For any champion, really, you just need to use them a few times and practice, practice, and practice some more. Each champion has their own learning curve, meaning how many games it takes to get a good handle of the champion in question. Azir is a bit harder than most other champions, so it will take a while to actually master him and not die a lot.

I hope this was helpful :/ I'm not the best with explaining this kind of stuff.

Azïr1 votes

It certainly was helpful. Even though I know it must be true, hearing that veterans such as yourself were once new to the game gives me hope, haha. Mechanically, I think the reflexes will come in time. I have over 80 games on Azir (estimate) and while I'm still bad, I am definitely better than when I just started. What I'm worried about on the backburner, though, is how and when to act with my team, besides hiding behind the tankiest champion like I usually do. For example, if the opposing midlaner goes to harass bottom lane, both junglers are 2/0 and MIA, should I stay mid or go elsewhere, things like that. Do you think there is a general guide to what to do, or do scenarios vary so much that getting more games in is really the best solution?

Phyuq Yiu1 votes

Ignore the flamers. Even if you are amazing you will still get flamed. It sucks that you have to play vs Yasuo so often too. Also Lux would be waaaay better. You can have a huge impact with little skill, imo high range skillshots are much easier. Azir is in a bad state but if you wanna just play him for fun, thats prolly some of the flame is bc he isnt meta. Also He takes a lot of skill. I recomend playing draft pick, theres so many Yasuo mains in blind pick and they just ruin the game. In draft there is rarely ever a Yasuo.

For builds, skill orders... everything go to http://na.op.gg/statistics/champion/ Then scroll down and click the champion and it will have so much info

https://www.youtube.com/user/ThePhylol/videos This is a good youtube channel that tells you what is going to be meta or new strong builds. Also good tips to play better

I like this guy too, may not be fore you https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCID1M0bzAxTChjFO8oEyjyw/videos

Azïr1 votes

I am actually OK with facing Yasuo so often, since I get to practice the matchup over and over again without the benefit of a friend who can help me. In the beginning I died an embarrassing number of times, but now I can avoid dying unless their jungler surprises me, and focus on CS/trading instead. It's matchups like Taliyah, whom I have faced once and got a 0/10 in lane because I didn't know what any of the circles on the ground did, and LeBlanc, whom I faced twice and she went something like 14/0 (couldn't see what killed me) and 1/2 (missed every shot of hers), that mess with me. Thanks for the youtube links, I will check them out. I actually use that stats site to see what runes/masteries to take for starters, am glad to see you recommend it too. People seem more carefree in blind pick, though. In draft mode, I get the feeling that people assume I know what I'm doing because I pick Azir and have a mastery ribbon on him when I am, in fact, bad.

Dynikus1 votes

azir is really difficult to play well, and right now, he's very weak. Like really, really weak. http://na.op.gg/statistics/champion/ http://champion.gg/champion/Azir/Middle http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Azir http://www.lolking.net/champions/azir#/overview

While questionably accurate, every 3rd party site that tracks champion statistics shows him as one of the worst champions overall.

For some basic tips on improving laning:

Champion knowledge is a big one. If you know what the enemy champion is capable of and what their weaknesses are, you should be able to farm and trade a lot easier and come out on top. So like knowing when and how far away they can go in for a trade, when their power spikes are, when they can play aggressively, etc. helps a lot. You can watch videos of champions you're not familiar with to get an idea of what their kit is like, and some of the things they can pull off.

Practice CSing. go into a custom game with no runes or masteries and just try to last hit with nothing but autos. Do it for 10 minutes then leave. Rinse and repeat. Try to get a better score than you did the last time. That way when you're in a game with runes and masteries, it's that much easier. Also try to practice farming under tower. If you can consistently get 7-8 cs/m, you should be okay.

Have map awareness, and ward. Watch some jungler gameplay to get an idea when and how some junglers will gank, and watch out for them. Keep an eye on other lanes too in case another lane is SS, or if you're running TP, in case there's a good gank opportunity.

Practice wave control. Learn how to freeze a wave, how to shove a wave, how to bounce a wave, etc. And know when to back and when to roam so you don't lose CS.

While you shouldn't follow it 100% of the time, probuilds.net should give you a decent idea of what the meta builds are at the moment, what runes and masteries they're taking, and what skills they're taking in what order. You shouldn't just copy what pros do all of the time, because what works for them might not work for you, but I personally think it's better than mobafire.

There are plenty of videos out there that will give you basic tips like this, you just have to look around on youtube and find them.

Azïr1 votes

Oh my, thank you for the very thorough reply. I have some more questions and comments, though, so if it's not too much trouble, I'd like to leave them for you.

  1. I guess champion knowledge is just something that comes with time? I played against a Vladimir and did poorly; I watched an intro video about him afterward, but still don't really know how to deal with him as an opponent. I feel like learning would happen the next time I face a Vladimir, or when he's on rotation for me to try. Was this true for you?
  2. Yes, the CS exercise is relaxing and I like to do it for warm-up.
  3. Warding is my favourite task as support. I may not know the best places to put them (tend to just plop them down in bushes where several paths converge), just hoping that quantity helps the team.
  4. What does "another lane is SS" mean?
  5. Yeah, I really have no clue about when to back and roam. Or wave management really, since I'm nervous about wandering too far from turret. I will look for guides on those. It's just that I considered "basic skills" to be things like last hitting, warding, staying alive, and wasn't ready for what to do in case I actually, well, stayed alive. I usually bought stuff during the respawn timer (actually still do). Thanks for pointing these things out.
Dynikus1 votes

Champion knowledge comes with time, yeah. It's very helpful to play champions you're not familiar with when they come up for free, because it gives you a good understanding of how their kit works. I didn't take the time out to read up on how champion abilities worked, like olaf for example, but when I played him, his kit made a lot more sense. at the very least watch videos on what they do, or read their ability descriptions.

There are also guides on good ward placement, deep warding (putting wards deep in the enemy jungle) and even as far as where to position your wards in brush to be most effective. But even just putting down a lot of wards in brush will help your team out, even if they're not in the most ideal spots.

SS mean missing. before pings, people used to say in chat that someone was SS to let you know to watch out and fall back, because they might be roaming to gank you. If you're bot for example, and you don't see the enemy mid laner on your mini map, you'll want to either ward or fall back if you don't know where they went.

Wave control is something most people don't really understand, but it's something a little more advanced that helps out a lot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WvOq1urZ7c

Some other little tips, say anything in chat that could be helpful to your teammates. If the enemy laner flashes or uses heal or whatever summoner spell, just say it out in chat and try to make a note of when it was. if you see the enemy midlaner start going bot, drop some warning pings or say (champion name) going bot. It can also be beneficial if one of your teammates does something good to just give them a little pat on the back. Like if someone gets first blood or something, just a little "gj" or "nice" goes a long way. Being overly positive will help you win a lot more games than ever being negative will.

At the end of the day though, don't let all of this be overwhelming, and just have fun. You learn a lot of this as you play more games, which is why it's usually recommended to play a lot of normal games at 30 before jumping into ranked. so try not to think too technically about it or worry too much if you make a mistake. Just learn from it and try to apply it in your next game.

BIG BAD AXE MAN1 votes

it's going to take more than a month to know how to properly play this game. main reasons why is that rules and FOTM (flavor of the month) are always changing so you have to adjust every time. add that with a very shitty, toxic community and now you know why it's hard for newcomers to play this game. learning basic mechanics and game knowledge is your best choice for now.

it looks like you fell in love with a great champ -- but at the wrong time. not only is azir currently a terrible pick for mid and sits at the bottom of mid laners, some even look at him as a troll pick.

liking your champ isn't wrong, but if you want to impress players, it would be best to learn more basic champions before mastering a mechanically-challenging champion like azir.

questions that might be helpful to ask yourself:

  • what do i like about azir and his skillset?
  • how knowledgeable am i with azir? do i know when to use my ult to make a game-changing play? do i know how to use my e + q to outplay opponents?
  • what is a champion(s) that is similar to his gameplay?
  • what are other lanes that i can excel at?
  • who is FOTM? what is his/her/it's counter?
  • have i updated my runes/masteries pages for the right champion?

seeing that you prefer ranged characters and you face yasuo a lot, i suggest giving Xerath a try. his autos basically gives you free MP and has huge range. he also has a nice stun so a yasuo won't be able to touch him. his ult do require some predictability skill but it gets easier once you start playing him.

Azïr1 votes

Champion wise I am probably going to buy Lux as soon as I get enough IP. I like how much variety she brings with her Q stasis, W shield, E slow, and of course the giant laser. As for Azir... well, I like him because of his aesthetics (I know, I know, everyone else facepalmed too) and the long range. I faced a Xerath once and can appreciate his superiority in this regard, so I will definitely try him a few times if he becomes available. I am not confident enough with the game/champion to try to make plays (they tend to get me killed because I kinda button mash instead of pull things off smoothly, and get my teammates on my case). I mostly think of R as a way to block the path behind us as low-health team members run from a bad fight.

Thank you for the detailed reply. I have a quick final question though. In your experience, has League always been about FTOM even at beginner levels? The reason I ask is because in most games I know, the new player experience stays relatively the same because everyone is still learning the basics and counters matter less. This is not the case in League?

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