Request to remove 'Mark" from ARAM

JokerFrown··23 votes·3,470 views

Request to remove 'Mark" from ARAM

any champions that required skill or risk to get a fast kill face little to no danger now. any burst champ can easily jump into the middle of the team and kill whoever they wish especially if they have more than 1 of these champs

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Only Play Darius8 votes

Aww, another player who is mad now that they can't just sit in the back as Lux Ezreal Caitlyn and end the game 25/3 and tell people who rolledSkarner Trundle that they need to go back to bots.

Mark dash makes ARAM much more unique and dynamic as a game mode and was a fan favorite feature from the snowdown event, get comfortable because it isn't going anywhere.

QQ more please, your tears nourish me. I find this post hilarious.

junglerboy169 votes

Mark is an excellent addition to the game mode, however there is no denying it is extremely overtuned and needs to be balanced, because at this point, it is broken and OP on EVERYONE. Even the ranged poke champs just take it so the can ranged poke even harder. Riot need to adjust it so it primarily rewards people who use the actual dash, not just sit back and lob true damage unblockable projectiles at you (with absolutely no cost to them either). I love being able to finally get in that lux's face and go "Pew!" right back at her, but right now mark/dash is too good on anyone who takes it to the point of being really obnoxious.

Spoo6 votes

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Aww, another player who is mad now that they can't just sit in the back as Lux Ezreal Caitlyn and end the game 25/3 and tell people who rolledSkarner Trundle that they need to go back to bots.

Mark dash makes ARAM much more unique and dynamic as a game mode and was a fan favorite feature from the snowdown event, get comfortable because it isn't going anywhere.

QQ more please, your tears nourish me. I find this post hilarious.

I'm sorry I never found lux ezz or caitlyn that threatening.

Theres a difference between pre mark ARAM where you could actually itemize for poke as a champion vs. not having any way to itemize post mark against the assassin that has a no threat jump in and flash out.

Oh lets not forget that theres 75 of these per flash cooldown or average 1 per 4 seconds. Tell me that any champ is going to dodge 100% and still be useful in the fight.

Lets face it, people that complained poke were OP are ridiculous. Yes they can hurt. But if your unwilling to build anything to stop that because you think you must do SR optimal damage your the one causing the misunderstanding that those champions are OP.

Hey look an enemy ezz ...nid .. or lux. You as any champion have 1300 gold to start with. If you think you can't dodge it..don't be cheap and spend that 500g for the Null-Magic Mantle. Need I remind you that attacking a champion with MR without pen provides an exponential damage decrease. And all I need sacrifice to stay in lane is 500g of my 1300. Oh no that's.. a doran's blade.. so sacrifice about 7-10 damage and a bit of life steal so that I can avoid taking heavy harass? Seems like an ok trade.

They have multiple ap champions... oh no.. does it hurt to ask your tank for an early Aegis. You can build all subitems for 1300 g then save up 600g before they die and bam!!! your team has an instant power spike of 20 MR per person. Combine that with the 25 that you could have gotten for yourself and you already have a cheap 45 MR before they can complete their first AP item.

You realize most games in ARAM are not lost to OP champs as to those teams that effectively know how to work together to build aoe items to help the team.

uncneo7 votes

I think that mark is a little too overpowered. Granted it does make some champions more viable, but at the same time constantly opening new windows of opportunity takes the fun out of the game. I've seen champs like skarner or trundle literally wait 20-30 minutes for the perfect pick, and I've seen comps with nidalee, ziggs, and sivir just poke people down until they win, but saying "nid is op in aram snowball helps me fight her" means you don't understand how to play against her in the first place. It shows that you're a weak player and you need the snowball as a crutch to do what you need to do in order to win. I've played against poke comps as Nunu and had my ass to the nexus and came out on top after finally realizing that my ult is better as a zoning mechanism than as damage for example. Not everything is about getting in and killing.

I'm not saying it isn't fun to be able to chuck a snowball at poke comps and see results in my team's favor. I'm not saying that using snowballs is any less strategic than using flash per se- but I don't think mark/dash should be a lasting part of this game mode, else people will forget to actually play to and with their champion and their team's strengths.

truonq7 votes

if you play ARAM long enough, you'd know once you get into the mid/late game, a team with 2 or 3 tanks/off tanks beats a poke team easily.

so a good ARAM account would actually have a bunch of tank/off tank champs instead of just squishies ranged champs. They don't really need the extra engage every 20 secs. That is just broken.

And the reason why people prefer ranged/poke champs is because it's more fun, not because they are OP or anything.

If Mark must be kept, give it the same cool down as Flash.

This message has been approved by Garen, Galio, Wukong, Amumu, Maokai, etc

Spoo3 votes

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if you play ARAM long enough, you'd know once you get into the mid/late game, a team with 2 or 3 tanks/off tanks beats a poke team easily.

so a good ARAM account would actually have a bunch of tank/off tank champs instead of just squishies ranged champs. They don't really need the extra engage every 20 secs. That is just broken.

And the reason why people prefer ranged/poke champs is because it's more fun, not because they are OP or anything.

If Mark must be kept, give it the same cool down as Flash.

This message has been approved by Garen, Galio, Wukong, Amumu, Maokai, etc

Agreed, there should at least be some downtime for the affect so ADC's or anyone else that needs to farm up to be useful can actual position themselves next to their minions long enough not to get facerolled.

Winkyslide6 votes

Team mate gets hit long range from a Galio snowball? Guess Galio earned the right to instantly murder our entire team with his ult from straight up michael jordan spacejam dunk range with absolutely no possibility of counter attack. Seems legit. In fact almost any champion that can do rapid burst damage to multiple targets and even more annoying, the instant button press AOE cc spell champions are near impossible to deal with. This is the worst thing that has ever been added to League of Legends. No longer can i practice champions i enjoy in a one lane, purely teamfighting experience. Instead the snowball has been brought to the ARAM map, turning what was a legitimate game mode into something more akin to Urf Mode. Sure its fun for a couple matches but its clear that the game mode has been overrun by what is essentially just a plain and simple gimmick. In fact i havent seen a gimmick this bad since the Xbox 360s Kinect.

CrimsonSpirits4 votes

probably the worst thing riot ever made so far ... it seriously changed the whoooole poking concept ... remove it before people forget how to play without it

Shizzarky4 votes

Yeah mark is terrible, it ruined aram as we know it. Leave mark in snowball showdown and give us back aram.

Sukishoo3 votes

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Señor Karthus2 votes

No. ARAM made ultra ranged champions op. Now they can get caught by otherwise "useless" ARAm champions that rely on get close to their victims. That's why Poro King was awesome.

Mandang01 votes

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Request to remove 'Mark" from ARAM

any champions that required skill or risk to get a fast kill face little to no danger now. any burst champ can easily jump into the middle of the team and kill whoever they wish especially if they have more than 1 of these champs

No skill or risk? Like the poke champs people w/ a dedicated ARAM account roll every game?

I'm LOVING the new change as people like me who roll nunu can actually do something in an ARAM, but I bet it makes the people with ARAM accounts a bit sad that their crutch is getting weakened.

Winkyslide4 votes

Aside from maybe Lux i dont think any ranged champ is op in ARAMs. Anyone whos played more than a few ARAMs is aware that poke comps get destroyed by a tankier team. Sure without poke youll probably lose your front tower first, but youll never have an advantage past like level 11. Keep in mind they also put Warmogs in, so now you can have 4k hp on some tanks in 10 minutes.. I think if anything adding Warmogs back to arams made tanks significantly stronger than anyone else by itself. Also, basically any champion that is built around having low mobility and balanced with such in mind can now just ignore that entirely. Positioning? Lol nah throw a snowball and you win. As a side note btw nunu is generally very tanky, hes one of the few champions that can heal very well on a map with no backing, has a slow that does a ton of damage, and can significantly increase attack and movement speed of his teamates. If you couldnt do anything with him before the "Mark" then maybe you should learn the champion.

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