Bring back old infinity and essence reaver

One Unforgiven··2 votes·1,322 views

Riot made changes to items before but this is too much.They totally destroyed champions like xayah and yasuo and new item is useless so it cant replace old infinity or essence reaver.Adc role in general is nerfed one more time making most of the ad carryes useless instead of kog, kaisa and maybe varus. Champions which need crit strike to be strong are pretty much dead.I just wonder why they touch such items which everybody loved.Nobody really enjoys new item and new effects for old ones. This and the fact that riot refuse to balance champions in the game will make league die after time.I wanna ask riot to return old infinity and essence reaver and maybe the old ap items cuz to be honest they were a lot better. I know that i am not the only one who thinks this way and i hope that we can make riot return thinks we all loved like old rengar and lb. So place share this opinion and lets take back what we lost.

8 Comments

Ragnaveil1 votes

It's been a day since the change landed. Give them time to study what happens in these two weeks, and maybe in 8.13 they might do something. Not saying they will, but give them time. They wouldn't rework both items if they had no clue what they are doing. Champs will rise or fall with item changes, its how the meta shifts. The community asked for ADC nerfs, so this is the main patch. Doesn't mean they might do more DOWN THE LINE, be it buff or nerf. They knew Yas was going to get hit hard with the item changes, and instead of looking to revert items to bandaid fix issues, Riot Blaustoise said days before the patch would land, that in 8.12 or later on, they would look at doing possibly a mini rework to him, as they failed to do so when he hit almost 90% banrate last year due to some changes.

Larkreck1 votes

They reworked ER into an item that basically no ADC wants to build and basically pushed crit completely out of the meta, while not touching the top tier ADCs at all and had to hotfix them cause they were nearing 60%+ banrate and 53%+ winrate. I'd say that yes, they did these changes for a reason, but they very clearly underestimated the effect.

ER is the worst part really, it's dead for most ADCs and those that had it as their core item have nothing else to build instead like Ashe and Xayah.

Ragnaveil1 votes

I will say that the ER change was the more shocking one when I saw it. I do hope it can be incorperated into AD builds more than just Lucian or anyone else that abuses it (looking at you Ezreal).

Larkreck1 votes

If you haven't seen it on Kog then be prepared for some fun, he gets 3 Ws in a row with no cooldown. Lucian is okay but I would say it's not certain yet if it's optimal on him and Ezreal has just better items.

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

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They reworked ER into an item that basically no ADC wants to build and basically pushed crit completely out of the meta, while not touching the top tier ADCs at all and had to hotfix them cause they were nearing 60%+ banrate and 53%+ winrate. I'd say that yes, they did these changes for a reason, but they very clearly underestimated the effect.

ER is the worst part really, it's dead for most ADCs and those that had it as their core item have nothing else to build instead like Ashe and Xayah.

I guess you haven't seen Lucian yet.

Larkreck1 votes

It's very overrated on Lucian, Kog is the real abuser, he can get 24 seconds of W uptime.

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

I got rekt by Kaisa hitting me with hail of blades for 500 true dmg with IE, then passive proc. Add her normal autoattack dmg. Right, they are so nerfed.

Larkreck1 votes

You got killed by a hyperfed kaisa with a bad build and bad runes, I wouldn't blame wither of those, it's just the champion that is completely busted.

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