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Why Azir nerfs make no sense

Padillac1··4 votes·696 views

Azir Azir has gotten some nerfs on the PBE server. But thre is no reason for this nerf, Azir's global winrate is 49%, Over Diamond his winrate is 48.4... Why are they nerfing him? -Well, Azir's pick/ban rate in pro games is really high end Azir's performance is really good so they decided to nerf him. Whats wrong with that?

  • Azir and all the other champions were made for the rest of the players not fo a few pro players. Yes its true that Azir is a really dificult champion and is really useful when you have experience with him. But I am not complaining because they are nerfing him, Im complaining because they eliminated some of his mechanics( The damage dealt to turrets when you try to summon a soldier on it) and because the nerf was a gooooood one, from 7 to 2 is a lot and they nerfed one of his core ítems item 3115 . With this changes Azir's winrate will drop to 42% .

PS: Zed Zed is as strong as Azir is in High elo( or more) and they dont nerf him. [zombie-nunu-tears] [zombie-brand-clap]

Let me know what you think.

10 Comments

DarthSpectrum2 votes

Keep in mind that Riot is also nerfing AurelionSol when he didn't even win any of the MSI games.

Riot just has a tendency to nerf champions popular in professional games. Some people argue that only the top tier players can demonstrate the strength and weaknesses of these champions, but it is pretty clear that Riot also arbitrarily assign nerfs and buffs to prevent LCS matches from becoming stale with the same champions picked over and over.

Azir's W change will have no impact at all. He can deal more damage to towers by just auto attacking. His R duration nerf will reduce the effectiveness of defensive walls, but he can still Shurima Shuffle enemies.

Azir is definitely strong in this meta, but he also have a relatively high skill floor. Even after these nerfs, he will probably still be strong. I am just worried that nerfing him will give new players even less incentive to learn Azir when almost every other AP champion is easier to pick up. Azir isn't all that difficult with some practice, but his W mechanic and E Q combo will feel pretty awkward for a first time player.

Beldair1 votes

Yea...it was strange when i started playing him.

Now i can dash around with ease. Still not a great Azir but i'm fairly ok.

blfUvZ8Ybu2 votes

Because Riot hates Azir.

They are enemy to Azir.

Fizz, Zed, Lb are untouched and immune from nerfs.

But Azir? He took overnerf.One patch three nerfs.

EcchiOtakuTM2 votes

Remember azir is an extremely high skill floor godlike high skill ceiling.

His win rate for the masses means nothing when it's done by experienced premades.

He's basically one of those "Well he sucks if you're new to him but once you learn all of his options you can become near-unbeatable" and that difficulty gets a bit easier in premades where your strengths can really shine since azir can be picked on and into almost any team.

Not saying he deserves the nerfs tho.

blfUvZ8Ybu2 votes

But Orianna has higher win rate?

50% win rate too high for Orianna.

So can we say Orianna needs nerf?

Also Lb 48% win rate, Zed 49%.

EcchiOtakuTM1 votes

I literally just said "Not saying he deserves the nerfs tho."did you even read that?

I was strictly saying why he was probably nerfed cause riot sees him doing too well in premade/experienced users or something not to mention he's one of the few champs that'll always be useful regardless of comps/enemy being faced but he doesn't deserve the nerf.

And no champ in league is anywhere close to azir's difficulty, not only is his kit hard to get into but since it offers so much usability in various amounts of situations it's taxing on a player. So trying to give an example of other champs is meaningless.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

I know.I read.But I mention first comment.

''Remember azir is an extremely high skill floor godlike high skill ceiling.''

This sentence forced to comment me.

EcchiOtakuTM1 votes

Out of all league champions azir is not someone who you can just buy and play instantly and what he CAN do is even harder to know when you should do it along with other varying annoyances that needs to be learned.

Beldair1 votes

Bard can be deemed as difficult because of his ult.

Which is why some call ppl who pick him trolls (which most of us are not).

EcchiOtakuTM1 votes

No bard's ulti is difficult yes but that's just his ulti his kit is straight forward and doesn't include too much micromanagement like azir has to with soldiers and their placement(kinda like ori ball).

Bard is low skill floor high skill ceiling his his ceiling is nowhere close to azir.

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