Zerath has been really silent in patches and i think hes just a really forgotten champion. You barely see him in game and if you do something to him like a massive buff or a rework it will give him some more attention and all the Zerath mains will be excited 
FOR JUSTICE4 voteshe's so forgotten you forgot how to spell his name xd
Arcade Lulu3 votes[{quoted}](name=FOR JUSTICE,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JEsOGiyg,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-11-04T03:07:02.731+0000)
he's so forgotten you forgot how to spell his name xd
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Eedat3 votesXerath
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Eedat1 votesgon give it to ya
ZackTheWaffleMan1 votesZerax???
That doesn't look right.
Sukishoo1 votesMaybe Xerax.
Zeyphel2 votesIt is better to remain silent than to suddenly become loud only to be shut down by Riot and stay like trash until the end of times.
Examples: Tahm Kench, Sylas, Aatrox, Azir, etc.
MrEnds1 votesIt is better to remain silent than to suddenly become loud only to be shut down by Riot and stay like trash until the end of times.
Examples: Tahm Kench, Sylas, Aatrox, Azir, etc.
I can agree with sylas and azir but i feel they actually put aatrox in a good spot
Zeyphel1 votesI can agree with sylas and azir but i feel they actually put aatrox in a good spot
If you consider 46% WinRate to be a good spot with an extremely low PickRate, then yes. Aatrox is in an extremely good spot.
MrEnds1 votesIf you consider 46% WinRate to be a good spot with an extremely low PickRate, then yes. Aatrox is in an extremely good spot.
if you know how to play the champ then that can change everything https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/348263749922062347/641056970065051651/unknown.png btw ignore the custom status that isnt towards Tyler1 its towards one of my friends I play league with
Zeyphel1 votesI am not saying you can't win with Aatrox. I am saying that due to statistics, it is more likely you will lose than you will find success with him. Even Aatrox mains have an overall WinRate of 48% with him at max.
Also, I find Darius to be one of easiest matchups for Aatrox. It is just my opinion though, but I have never face any trouble winning against Darius as Aatrox. I believe Aatrox to be a counterpick to Darius. Try facing a Riven, Jax, or any other meta champion with Aatrox.
MrEnds1 votesI am not saying you can't win with Aatrox. I am saying that due to statistics, it is more likely you will lose than you will find success with him. Even Aatrox mains have an overall WinRate of 48% with him at max.
Also, I find Darius to be one of easiest matchups for Aatrox. It is just my opinion though, but I have never face any trouble winning against Darius as Aatrox. I believe Aatrox to be a counterpick to Darius. Try facing a Riven, Jax, or any other meta champion with Aatrox.
just saying i have nearly a 60% winrate with him also I feel as if Darius does poorly against aatrox but only if aatrox zones correctly also he doesnt win if the darius brings ghost instead of tp or ignite
From experience Aatrox wins lane against Teemo, Sion, Mordekaiser, Yasuo, Vladimir, Malphite, Nasus, Gangplank, Shen, Kennen, Gnar, Garen, Illaoi, Mundo, Irelia, and Camille.
Aatrox Hard counters Sion, Nasus, and Vlad.
Aatrox has a pretty even matchup with Poppy, Kayle, Chogath, and Urgot, Pantheon.
Aatrox Gets hard countered by Riven (you could argue this is a skill matchup but I digress), Kled, Renekton, Jax, Fiora, Jayce, and Tryndamere.
Zeyphel1 votesWell, I was talking about Diamond+ statistics. Aatrox could be a good hard stomper in low elo but in high elo it completely changes. Any champion can be good in low elo if you play him really good. That's why Riot doesn't balance around low elo. That Darius who got stomped that hard early didn't know how to play.
High elo Darius players would not only play differently but also if they are losing they would play passive and not keeping giving free kills to Aatrox. And Aatrox keeps being a counterpick to Darius even if Darius carries ghost because ghost is not going to be effective enough until late game and in late game laning is over.
Side note: Aatrox doesn't hardcounter Vlad.
MrEnds1 votesWell, I was talking about Diamond+ statistics. Aatrox could be a good hard stomper in low elo but in high elo it completely changes. Any champion can be good in low elo if you play him really good. That's why Riot doesn't balance around low elo. That Darius who got stomped that hard early didn't know how to play.
High elo Darius players would not only play differently but also if they are losing they would play passive and not keeping giving free kills to Aatrox. And Aatrox keeps being a counterpick to Darius even if Darius carries ghost because ghost is not going to be effective enough until late game and in late game laning is over.
Side note: Aatrox doesn't hardcounter Vlad.
when i said aatrox hardcounters vlad i ment that from my personal experience which i stated in the post and the winrates and pickrates i corrected you on were based on diamond + statistics, also darius with ghost can just run you down once he hits 6 IN LANE
Zeyphel1 votesThose were facts I got from league of graphs. He has a 47% WR Diamond+ and due to his low PR he is probably only played by mains. You play in Gold III that is why you see one sided stomps like that one. You have a 20% WinRate with Aatrox though... I thought you said you had a 60% WinRate.
I can play Aatrox vs Darius with ghost against you if you want me to prove you how useless ghost is for the matchup in early game. I have destroyed Darius mains which mostly carry ghost when I play Aatrox. And about Vladimir... It is all about knowing how Aatrox works. Once the Vladimir player understand his mechanics, he should have no problems winning lane or even stomping him.
A champion with insane lane sustain against a champion who lacks lane sustain. The result should be pretty obvious.
MrEnds1 votesThose were facts I got from league of graphs. He has a 47% WR Diamond+ and due to his low PR he is probably only played by mains. You play in Gold III that is why you see one sided stomps like that one. You have a 20% WinRate with Aatrox though... I thought you said you had a 60% WinRate.
I can play Aatrox vs Darius with ghost against you if you want me to prove you how useless ghost is for the matchup in early game. I have destroyed Darius mains which mostly carry ghost when I play Aatrox. And about Vladimir... It is all about knowing how Aatrox works. Once the Vladimir player understand his mechanics, he should have no problems winning lane or even stomping him.
A champion with insane lane sustain against a champion who lacks lane sustain. The result should be pretty obvious.
I do have nearly a 60% WR with aatrox check here: https://u.gg/lol/profile/na1/sirends/overview also he has one of the highest top lane pickrates which i looked up on op.gg here: https://na.op.gg/champion/aatrox/statistics/top
Zeyphel1 votesThis contradicts the results from my other source which is weird. Anyways, be mindful that your source includes results from the whole season 9 in which Aatrox was overpowered during a long time before being nerfed.
The source I used only included results from last month.
MrEnds1 votesIf you consider 46% WinRate to be a good spot with an extremely low PickRate, then yes. Aatrox is in an extremely good spot.
idk how having the 8th highest toplane pickrate is low that being 7.14% and his WR is 48.46%, not 46%
Zeyphel1 voteshttps://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/aatrox/top
He had 46% WinRate last week. He has now 47% while being played mostly by his mains, check the PickRate also. I still fail to see how is that a good spot.
Xavanic1 votesdidnt already get a rework at 1 point? i remember he used to turn himself into a tower before
BBKong1 votesI see him a decent amount. Like more than Ziggs and a little less than Velkoz. I'd rather he be like this than get buffed then gutted.
Not that that's ever happened before cough
Jesi Oni1 votesHe needs something and this something is a Legendary+ Skin!
Sirsir1 votesXerath* is fine, the game just doesn't favor siege mages right now.
Bot Zilean1 votesXerath is fine the way he is right now.
Xerath is actually broken mid Diamond and below in the right hands. People don't play with/against Xerath enough to know how to deal with his poke. Just watch Zwag on YouTube.
What he needs though is a goddamn new skin...
Source: I climbed up to Masters playing only Zilean and Xerath
