Quadruple Udyr nerf?

Jenks3·2/18/2016, 1:48:48 PM·2 votes·940 views

Riot, I was just curious why you decided to nerf Udyr four times in one patch. I'm honestly just curious, as I don't play him extremely often. But even for a non Udyr main it seems overkill. He's getting the following nerfs:

  1. Swifites going down to 60 MS
  2. Runic Echoes being nerfed to 7% ms
  3. Turtle stance high level nerf
  4. Phoenix stance high level nerf

Now I get that he is strong right now since swifties are big and echoes exists, but did he really need his abilities nerfed as well? Why can't we choose one or the other instead of nerfing his abilities AND the items he's functioning with so he doesn't get double whammied into obscurity?

12 Comments

darkmatchwaldo2/18/2016, 2:33:44 PM3 votes

He DEFINITELY needed it. As someone who's been playing the crap out of AP Udyr i can admit that it's just not fair. There's no reason i should be allowed to FLY around the map bear slapping people at will. His counterplay of "just kite him" went out the door. With the strength of turtle and his insane movespeed he could catch up through just about anything will full health still. You can't tell me he's not close to XinZhao release level of broken. It takes 3 people just to stop him from taking your base turrets. The AP scaling and just the raw base damage on his Phoenix has had it coming for awhile too, there's no reason i should be able to duel a Jax with just item 1414 for a damage item and win. Even with the nerfs he's gonna be viable. item 3009 item 1410 nerfs aren't just targeting him specifically, it's made Elise even stronger and brought Nidalee back from the dead. Every last AP jungler although underplayed benfit insanely well from those two items. Ekko feels a lot better to play. Fiddlesticks is no longer troll. I've even been abusing the combination of those two items to play Leona jungle, you're not getting out of range of my E even with your dash.

Until you've played the AP Godyr yourself, you don't understand how strong it is. Not a single other champion in the game has the same ability to draw 4 people to them, get collapsed on, and make it out alive by running INTO the base.

Dominick Destine2/18/2016, 2:39:17 PM2 votes

60+% win rate with high pick rate.

Spaceman5pff2/18/2016, 3:21:05 PM2 votes

Because they need to treat him like they treat all tanky champions. (sejuani ability + item nerfs) (udyr ability + item nerfs)

But then you get to assassins and "We want to be sure we go one step as a time as to not over correct the issue at hand" It is bullshit and I hate it

disregardable2/18/2016, 2:07:01 PM2 votes

They already addressed this in another post. Use the search features pls.

BrodoBraggins2/25/2016, 5:07:30 PM1 votes

Nerfing udyr this hard is ridiculous. movement speed and turret taking is what he does. Out of all the trash in League like kogmaw taking down a base from the inhib to nexus in 15 seconds (no exaggeration, I timed it), or master yi getting a penta from auto and Q. hell tryndmere presses R and cheats death. Nerfing a dudes movement speed and abilities is a bit much. Not even mad though because its gonna take a lot more than that to stop the movement speed on this guy.

Stephenizgod2/25/2016, 5:20:02 PM1 votes

Yes... He was unkitable, he could 2 shot carries, and he was damn near impossible to kill unless your whole team had hard CC and boatload of damage.

LilxPaprika2/18/2016, 4:11:08 PM1 votes

mean while warlord mastery is getting buffed which will be pretty strong on udyr imo. merc treads also getting buffed. going back to his roots: item 3111 item 3078 item 3053 item 1401 item 3143 item 3065

Cowgirl Ed2/18/2016, 4:16:19 PM1 votes

because people are fucking noobs, let udyr farm, then they keep chasing him, etc. now udyr will just be another useless meatwall, the shield nerf was too hard

LilxPaprika2/18/2016, 4:22:56 PM1 votes

you'll only notice it at max rank. just lvl it up to 3 and lvl up other spells first you'll hardly notice a difference. once you get enough cdr the shield becomes really strong. turtle gives him plenty of sustain.